Redwall: Warlords

How much longer do you think RWL will still be active?

Almost 9 years ago, even the creator of RWL said he didn't think RWL would last beyond one year. Even today, it seems people are still surprised that we're still stubbornly chugging along, despite the death of the Redwall and Promisance communities. we can't help it, we're just so awesome

So basically, I don't think anything surprises me anymore. Thank you RWL for being the way you are. :)

RWL must live!!!

i voted 3-5 years as i think a lot of people will grow out or find other commitments but other than that there is no other reason it wont live forever, RWL FOREVER!

I think 3-5 years. Lots of us are going to be getting to the actual adulthood stage of our lives in that time.

I'd like to say forever, but unless the site gets passed onto the next generation I'm not sure people will be interested in the site 5-10 years down the line, or rather be interested and able+willing to develop, code, balance and pay for it.

Well you old people (lol) are going to lose your pride if you keep playing but you old people tend to know a lot of people with younger kids so why not try to introduce them to this

recently i've noticed a lot of newer players on reg and turbo, but they dont seem to want to join the forums :/

and whats that mean?

Quote from: abartell on July 28, 2011, 10:29:41 AM
Well you old people (lol) are going to lose your pride if you keep playing

Quote from: abartell on July 28, 2011, 10:29:41 AM
Well you old people (lol) are going to lose your pride if you keep playing but you old people tend to know a lot of people with younger kids so why not try to introduce them to this

:(

Quote from: Pippin on July 28, 2011, 10:32:00 AM
recently i've noticed a lot of newer players on reg and turbo, but they dont seem to want to join the forums :/

Forums are out of style. It's all about the status updates and liking and commenting now.

and posting every single detail of their life!

Yeah, it's all about pointless status updates and fake friends. Some people on social networks have 600 friends and post a new status every hour-sometimes more.

One person annoyed me so much I removed her, lol. I only keep 200friends or so, and even then realistically only about 20-30 would be proper irl friends where as others are people I know from RWL (well, I guess some of them are kind of friends like Blood Wake) people I just know from school.

The only forums that seem very active at the moment are gamer forums. Probably for a mulititude of reasons.

But yes, there is a nice gathering of ingame members such as all of Hares...people like Vulpes Jarr, for example. I suppose they use the lounge and clan forums instead of these forums.

yeah, there clan forums are pretty funny actually :D

Yeah, the Lounge finally seems to be taking on a life of its own. Much like Spa and the Box of Shouts. :) It is a shame they don't frequent the forums though. For some reason I don't consider people fully integrated into the RWL community until they post frequently on the forums.

i've mentioned it a couple of times to W.A.R but they seem set against the idea.

On the note of people liking social networks, it is possible to integrate features of social networking into forums. Stuff like comments on your page, groups with their own mini-forums (eg. fans of RWL and Warrior cats). Other features you can add include being able to upload albums, make statuses (which can be liked) and on a similar note I suppose reputation system is similar to liking too. Stuff like messaging is also made more similar to a chat as with social networks.

This is all probably quite dificult and time-consuming to code, though, and would probably have to be developed independently instead of powred by SMF or whatever. It's definetly possible though-a good example is Bioware Social Network. (yes, I'm a Bioware fanboy)

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/index (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/index)

I'm not sure if making the forums eventually like that is a possibility or too dificult, I'm just throwing out an idea.

sounds like a good idea if we could get a like feature and also the photo album integrated into the actual forums.

dislike the whole social network forum merge idea, just me though.

As for RWL's lifespan, I think it could go on for a longtime, newer players are coming to the game (and some are staying)

I suppose some older players might leave, but if Volky is anything to go by, they'll hang around . . . at least a little

i must admit the main reason i stayed was volky  :D

Quote from: Pippin on July 28, 2011, 01:11:45 PM
i must admit the main reason i stayed was volky  :D

VENERAL GOLKOV!!!

hes a role model for all of us.

hate the noobs.

I think the forums is the facebook of rwl

Quote from: abartell on July 28, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
I think the forums is the facebook of rwl

Heh, don't tell that to Sharpie. ^.^

*likes shaels post*

I hate you all. And, yeah, I'm 27 years old and still visit this site every day. At this point, I'm pretty sure RWL will last forever. Unless I get married and have like 4 kids, I don't see a good reason to stop coming to RWL.

No then you just put your kids on :D

volkov would feed them barbed wire as a treat

Quote from: Pippin on July 29, 2011, 02:53:39 AM
volkov would feed them barbed wire as a treat

I actually laughed at this haha.

Quote from: Gen. Volkov on July 28, 2011, 11:01:59 PM
I hate you all. And, yeah, I'm 27 years old and still visit this site every day. At this point, I'm pretty sure RWL will last forever. Unless I get married and have like 4 kids, I don't see a good reason to stop coming to RWL.

Lovable as ever Volky  :)

Quote from: The Lady Shael on July 28, 2011, 04:06:06 PM

Quote from: abartell on July 28, 2011, 04:00:24 PM
I think the forums is the facebook of rwl

Heh, don't tell that to Sharpie. ^.^

I'll pretend I didn't read that  :P

Quote from: Firetooth on July 28, 2011, 10:18:09 AM
I'd like to say forever, but unless the site gets passed onto the next generation I'm not sure people will be interested in the site 5-10 years down the line, or rather be interested and able+willing to develop, code, balance and pay for it.

The torch of RWL has already been passed on a few times now.

Boze started it.

He left it to Ragefur, Retto, and Stormclaw.

Retto stayed, and soon brought Shael into the fold. Then, there was Peace and Wolf Bite and windy and stuff.

The game has never rested on a single person. (Although it feels like Shael has been holding everything together since almost the dawn of time.) So I think it can survive as long as it still has a member base, and I don't see that disappearing. The game is more active than it's been in years, we've outlived nearly all of the other proms. Brian Jacques might have died, but I'm optimistic the resurgence in the community will last.

Really, if RWL was going to die when the current staff became adults, it would have happened already. Most of us have jobs and partners and bills to pay, but we're still keen to burn 450 turns every 3 days.

I think RWL /definitely/ has a future beyond the next 3-5 years, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops.

From what I hear, boze, retto and stormclaw all knew each other really well-in real life iirc.

Plus, RWL's only really originally developed under retto from what I can tell, originally it was just a QMT copy with some different values. Plus, the site did nearly go down with retto from what WB says. Also, the game had a bigger community when most the developers joined up.

I'm not saying it wont last forever (I hope it does) but I'll just be a little cautious.

Are we allowed to be honest about Retto these days or is he still in that weird "we remember him for what we wanted him to be rather than what he was" zone?

As Matt said, RWL has persisted on the will of Shael and almost nothing else.

Nostalgia plays a bigger role as time goes on too, which is what keeps a lot of us around I would imagine. If Volkov and Holby weren't around I would have nothing to come around for. Even though I am not as involved with them as I once was here and elsewhere, it is fun to remember.

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Before anyone asks, I was the guy who voted 1-2 years. I misunderstood the question.




















Yes, this question can be misunderstood.

Quote from: Firetooth on July 29, 2011, 06:26:42 AM
From what I hear, boze, retto and stormclaw all knew each other really well-in real life iirc.

Plus, RWL's only really developed under retto from what I can tell, originally it was just a QMT copy with some different values. Plus, the site did nearly go down with retto from what WB says. Also, the game had a bigger community when most the developers joined up.

I'm not saying it wont last forever (I hope it does) but I'll just be a little cautious.

I'm sure Boze et al knew each other as members of the ROC, but I wasn't aware that it was an IRL thing.

The original game was just QMT with the names changed, I don't think any values were different. Retto did a fair bit of development in the beginning, but the changes weren't overly drastic, bar the attacking system. After BAXX was released, Retto ceased to do pretty much anything until he left. Which meant there were about three years where the game didn't change at all.

Obviously the game had a bigger community in the first year. There was a huge ROC crowd, and the game's newness drew people. I don't think it's fair to compare 2002-2003 to now, though. Since you've been here, though, (2007ish?) numbers have grown.

Even if I'm the only player, I won't stop. Plus that makes me an automatic emporer (possibly the only way I could achieve such status)!

Quotevolkov would feed them barbed wire as a treat

YUM!

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Lovable as ever Volky

My nickname is apparently Grumpus. Might as well live up to it.

The Federation may die, but RWL lives forever! And because of that, WE live forever!

But we won't die either. We are no. 1 exporter of spam.

Feeling down in the summer heat? Come bask in the radioactive glow of Spa! Complete with the crystal purity of nuclear winter.

Quote from: Holby on July 29, 2011, 06:05:04 AM
The game has never rested on a single person. (Although it feels like Shael has been holding everything together since almost the dawn of time.)

Quote from: Neobaron on July 29, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
As Matt said, RWL has persisted on the will of Shael and almost nothing else.

Awww. I can't help it, I really enjoy it. :) My family and friends don't understand it, and sometimes even I don't. But I know it makes me happy to see you guys having fun and making friends, so that's what keeps me going.


And I agree with Holbs, if we were going to go inactive due to us being "adults", it would have already happened. I remember thinking about the future 6 years ago, wondering if RWL would still be around. I figured I'd post a bit in college, but it would slowly phase out and I would stop being active after I graduated. Definitely didn't happen. Every so often I'll see people making friends, learning something new, maturing/growing up a little, and moments like that make being a staff member here very rewarding. As long as I keep seeing that in the community, I'll still be here trying to keep it going. :)

Okay, enough about that, might start tearing up.

Quote from: Neobaron on July 29, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Are we allowed to be honest about Retto these days or is he still in that weird "we remember him for what we wanted him to be rather than what he was" zone?

We can say what we want about him as long as we're still respectful of all the time and effort he put into his projects. He helped RWL become more than just a promisance, but he wasn't the best administrator. Definitely would have helped if he hadn't ditched an active community without saying a word or passing it down to someone else.

Quote from: Neobaron on July 29, 2011, 07:11:20 AM
Nostalgia plays a bigger role as time goes on too, which is what keeps a lot of us around I would imagine. If Volkov and Holby weren't around I would have nothing to come around for. Even though I am not as involved with them as I once was here and elsewhere, it is fun to remember.

I see how it is.

Also, this'll pretty much be around as long as Shael wants it to be. Ollie has the domain and hosting under his name and pays the 7 dollars a month for hosting or whatever, but I know that windy regularly backs up the forums, and I'm assuming that Shael has a local version of the game source (and [redacted] does too, probably)...What this means is that it'll never go away until Shael wants it to. Or gets drunk and deletes everything. This is my current task.

I've known them both for about a decade dear. Nothing personal. :P

"I'M SORRY KILK WE HAVE ONLY KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR EIGHT YEARS THIS IS INSIGNIFICANT"

my friendship backbone

I've known you for like 3 months.

To be fair, most things pale in comparison to Holby

QuoteTo be fair, most things pale in comparison to Holby

And Volkov, don't forget Volkov. LOL.

Quote from: Neobaron on August 03, 2011, 09:23:24 PM
I've known you for like 3 months.

get out

Three months? How are you still here?

Quote from: Holby on July 29, 2011, 08:04:44 AM
I'm sure Boze et al knew each other as members of the ROC, but I wasn't aware that it was an IRL thing.

Boze/Stormclaw were RL friends, this I recall quite vividly. Retto I'm not so sure, I think he might have been, but I have no recollection of this. I think I had this conversation with Firetooth once, but I might have said Retto too at that point, but the more I think about it, it was just Boze/Stormclaw.

I don't remember Boze and Stormclaw being friends at all. Then again, I was 11. I may have missed that bit. Retto I don't think so - there was the whole thing where no-one knew what he looked like if I recall correctly.

I thought it was Boze who wouldn't post a photo of himself. I seem to remember that all we had for awhile was a picture of his feet, and that was his photo in the album.

Quote from: Gen. Volkov on August 08, 2011, 11:36:36 PM
I thought it was Boze who wouldn't post a photo of himself. I seem to remember that all we had for awhile was a picture of his feet, and that was his photo in the album.

We only have the hands of Retto.

Boze posted a picture of one of his feet next to a coke can. He is also visible in the photo.

Someone on the MSN showed me a picture of the Retto one time. Mayhaps it was from his book of faces.

I think its gona keep going, and I'm going to do my best to keep it going :)

Quote from: Pippin on July 28, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
I've mentioned it a couple of times to W.A.R but they seem set against the idea.

That's sad man I just couldn't right then