Your 8 man team finally reached the NW of a solo player. Time to break out the champagne.
They made some threats on me so I chaosed a bit of that net. Lets hope they get the message and leave me alone. Tired of having enemies.
What's the point of this thread, other then acting upset and butthurt?
Don't be so douchey bout internet rats. Not everybody is able to abuse loopholes in the code because they were allowed access to the beta. Most people are learning to play again. What your doing is not worth bragging about, tbh.
Quote from: Firetooth on February 07, 2012, 08:43:37 AM
What's the point of this thread, other then acting upset and butthurt?
Don't be so douchey bout internet rats. Not everybody is able to abuse loopholes in the code because they were allowed access to the beta. Most people are learning to play again. What your doing is not worth bragging about, tbh.
You sound a little butthurt yourself! lol
I'm not in VTN, infact I've only just joined up.
Just disappointing people have taken it upon themselves to play the role of internet hard men douchebags and stop everybody who didn't have access to the beta from learning how to play.
I had access to the beta as well, before you play that card.
Firetooth, you're a smart guy, please find other words to express your anger.
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 07, 2012, 10:25:38 AM
Firetooth, you're a smart guy, please find other words to express your anger.
What like locking most of the land in Turbo and ruining the game for newer players struggling with the new code?
You guys disappoint me
sometimes all the time
Are you angry? Please refrain from dragging me into your fit. I ran 1000 turns in BETA to find bugs, if you're implying I abused anything, think again. As I understand you're both getting frustrated that you can't break sevz?
Where in my post did I imply you abused anything?
Please do point it out to me, I'm finding it hard to see myself . . .
Quote from: Sharptooh on February 07, 2012, 10:27:20 AM
What like locking most of the land in Turbo and ruining the game for newer players struggling with the new code?
You guys disappoint me sometimes all the time
Well, we're all new players mate. This is still BETA testing and the code changes often due to suggestions from the player base, all with the main goal of balancing the code. What Sevz is doing has helped Shadow immensely, and to my understanding he has been very cooperative in suggesting fixes for the attack system.
So, I just thought I'd point out that I have no advantage over any of you. I didn't want your "harming new players" comment to be misinterpreted.
Go take a breather bro, this behaviour is not very becoming of you. Would you mind telling me what I did to upset you? I'm sure we can work this out.
Sevz is not a solo player -- shall I post the aid logs?
Don't be disingenuous. There's also been a lot of effort put in by Sevz's allies to round up the land so he can horde it.
I conciser this abuse of the beta access.
Most players with beta access have devoted their time to helping other players learn how to play the game. Sevz took his advantage and ran with it. I know I shouldn't have expected any better, and it sure wont happen again.
With most of the server flailing around, trying to find out how the new system works and the best way to use it, Emping is not a great feat that should be trotted out and lauded. I conciser it shameful, and have half a mind to nuke Sevz and spread the land over the player base.
This is not helpful, this is embarrassing and an abuse of trust.
Thanks to VTN for finally forming some sort of cohesive resistance.
Why are you attacking me? I already stated I did not abuse BETA access to learn any sort of strategy. I actually taught myself a makeshift strat at the beginning of the round, and am teaching people who ask for my help..?
Go check out my "turns used" in the test server, I promise I didn't use it to my advantage, I actually found a 1 attack bug.
Disingenuous? I never implied sevz was solo, nor did I deny people were helping him. However, Shadow himself stated it was helpful sevz locked the land like this, so he could in turn fix the flaws of the new server. I'd appreciate if everyone got off my back..
Mostly what Windhound said.
You can pretend you're being a nice Guy Snare, but at the end of the day you're helping Sevah, who is only using his position as emp to try and force Shadow into implementing changes he wants (well, this is how I see it anyway, it might be different)
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 07, 2012, 10:40:43 AM
So, I just thought I'd point out that I have no advantage over any of you.
You had beta access, whether you ran only 1000 turns or not is kind of irrelevant, that's 1000 turns more than most people, and it gave you a bit of a kickstart.
You also have the advantage that you're teamed up with other people.
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 07, 2012, 10:40:43 AM
Would you mind telling me what I did to upset you? I'm sure we can work this out.
Becoming a lackey for Sevah namely, then helping him dominate the server during Beta testing and putting people off of the new code because they can't make much networth, when a large contributing factor to this is locked down land.
Oh and I appreciate you're trying to be friendly, but please do not call me bro.
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 11:41:15 AM
Sevz is not a solo player -- shall I post the aid logs?
Don't be disingenuous. There's also been a lot of effort put in by Sevz's allies to round up the land so he can horde it.
I conciser this abuse of the beta access.
Most players with beta access have devoted their time to helping other players learn how to play the game. Sevz took his advantage and ran with it. I know I shouldn't have expected any better, and it sure wont happen again.
With most of the server flailing around, trying to find out how the new system works and the best way to use it, Emping is not a great feat that should be trotted out and lauded. I conciser it shameful, and have half a mind to nuke Sevz and spread the land over the player base.
This is not helpful, this is embarrassing and an abuse of trust.
Thanks to VTN for finally forming some sort of cohesive resistance.
People seem confused. I was talking about Me, who cares about Sevz.
The value of what sevs is doing is past at this point. And you and his team have been abusing the market to get around aid limits all round, which is what the problem is.
Yes, it is helpful to abuse a bug ONCE, and then undo the damage you did and report it. When you continue abusing things it is not helpful and creates a poor environment for the rest of the game, who might otherwise also be able to actually play things out and test features instead of having to waste time dealing with the fallout of repeating things.
Yes, we can now code out some stuff that should not be there. The problem everyone is having is that you (read: your team) continue to take advantage after the bug is known.
The problem really is that our rules are too loosely defined and are therefore hard to enforce, which we should remedy.
Sevah has actually been anything BUT helpful in this process. The only reason I know problems is from looking at his account, not because he reported anything or was in any way helpful. Which means that I'll have to keep adminning instead of playing over the whole process if I want to get anything done on that front, which is a pain in the butt.
Quote from: Sharptooh on February 07, 2012, 12:04:12 PM
Mostly what Windhound said.
You can pretend you're being a nice Guy Snare, but at the end of the day you're helping Sevah, who is only using his position as emp to try and force Shadow into implementing changes he wants (well, this is how I see it anyway, it might be different)
I'm not
pretending anything. Heard of trial and error? It's the course of BETA. That's what's going on ingame. There will be a few rounds yet before the game is ready to be released on reg. If Sevz didn't do this, someone else would in the future and the game would remain unbalanced. For the record, I'm hardly even working with Sevz, I've been in Ottawa for the last 5 days looking at places to live, my involvement is minimal. Windy can check my turns used here as well.
QuoteYou had beta access, whether you ran only 1000 turns or not is kind of irrelevant, that's 1000 turns more than most people, and it gave you a bit of a kickstart.
You also have the advantage that you're teamed up with other people.
How do you figure? I stayed below 10m NW in all my tests, you don't need mass networth to find bugs. People like Volk used the test server to lock and test strategies, I was one of the few that actually used it to help the coding process (I know you were one assisting in this, too) but please don't imply I was cheating or have any advantage. & honestly, you have a 10 man clan, and im solo, so I don't know what you're talking about.
QuoteBecoming a lackey for Sevah namely, then helping him dominate the server during Beta testing and putting people off of the new code because they can't make much networth, when a large contributing factor to this is locked down land.
Oh and I appreciate you're trying to be friendly, but please do not call me bro.
Okay? As I stated, my involvement is minimal at best. I am helping people learn the new code, so I don't know why you are accusing me of this nonsense.
Guilty conscience eh Snare?
Honestly, my post wasn't aimed at you.
It was aimed at this thread as a whole, Sevz' emping, and Cloud - who stated that Sevz was solo.
Also, I suppose I could have clarified, when I said "this" is an abuse of the beta access/trust, I was referring to Sevz's emping. And it is. We allowed him to hang out in the beta server, he fiddles around for a little bit, kills another beta tester, and leaves with basically no constructive feedback.
To a smaller amount, those helping him are absolute twits, but whatever.
If you're just playing the game and helping people then no worries -- don't have such a guilty conscience Snare.
But at the same time, don't stand up for Sevz when he's being a flaming tard.
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
Guilty conscience eh Snare?
Honestly, my post wasn't aimed at you.
It was aimed at this thread as a whole, Sevz' emping, and Cloud - who stated that Sevz was solo.
Also, I suppose I could have clarified, when I said "this" is an abuse of the beta access/trust, I was referring to Sevz's emping. And it is. We allowed him to hang out in the beta server, he fiddles around for a little bit, kills another beta tester, and leaves with basically no constructive feedback.
To a smaller amount, those helping him are absolute twits, but whatever.
If you're just playing the game and helping people then no worries -- don't have such a guilty conscience Snare.
But at the same time, don't stand up for Sevz when he's being a flaming tard.
Again, I never stated Sevz was solo...This thread wasn't about Sevz, and VTN never came close to Sevz NW.
eek, that was messy
Quote from: Shadow on February 07, 2012, 12:08:02 PM
The value of what sevs is doing is past at this point. And you and his team have been abusing the market to get around aid limits all round, which is what the problem is.
Yes, it is helpful to abuse a bug ONCE, and then undo the damage you did and report it. When you continue abusing things it is not helpful and creates a poor environment for the rest of the game, who might otherwise also be able to actually play things out and test features instead of having to waste time dealing with the fallout of repeating things.
Yes, we can now code out some stuff that should not be there. The problem everyone is having is that you (read: your team) continue to take advantage after the bug is known.
The problem really is that our rules are too loosely defined and are therefore hard to enforce, which we should remedy.
Sevah has actually been anything BUT helpful in this process. The only reason I know problems is from looking at his account, not because he reported anything or was in any way helpful. Which means that I'll have to keep adminning instead of playing over the whole process if I want to get anything done on that front, which is a pain in the [Behind].
Okay, fair enough. Nuke him if you feel that way, you're the admin. I have been away for the last 5 days and have run once in between, last I heard he was giving you constructive feedback and was actually helping you fix things, and furthermore you two are actually getting along? Anyways, I feel you're all taking this situation out on me when I really am a minor part in it. Go look at my last few runs, I think you'll find I was completely solo and my turns only benefit myself. So in theory, almost half of my turns (the most recent half) have been solo. If you don't like what's going on, change it.
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 12:15:30 PM
Guilty conscience eh Snare?
Honestly, my post wasn't aimed at you.
It was aimed at this thread as a whole, Sevz' emping, and Cloud - who stated that Sevz was solo.
Also, I suppose I could have clarified, when I said "this" is an abuse of the beta access/trust, I was referring to Sevz's emping. And it is. We allowed him to hang out in the beta server, he fiddles around for a little bit, kills another beta tester, and leaves with basically no constructive feedback.
To a smaller amount, those helping him are absolute twits, but whatever.
If you're just playing the game and helping people then no worries -- don't have such a guilty conscience Snare.
But at the same time, don't stand up for Sevz when he's being a flaming tard.
Okay, misunderstanding-- agreed to disagree. I have no guilty conscience, though. The lock holds no merit with me, I could honestly not care less about anything going on ingame atm. I was more thrown aback by the hate mail on here, but I should have explained myself further.
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 07, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
last I heard he was giving you constructive feedback and was actually helping you fix things, and furthermore you two are actually getting along?
Ask yourself one question - does this sound remotely like anything Sevah would ever do?
Well, I tend not to judge people if I can and always look for the best in each situation. Call me naive, but the casual way sevz brought this up in chat lead me to believe it was legitimate-- I don't know, as stated I've been busy with IRL stuff, the few moments I talked to him over the weekend I didn't think to analyze and sift through for validity. Can you kindly turn your sour tone toward someone more deserving?
I appreciate it's not good to presume or judge without evidence, but Sevah has a pretty bad track record with regards his benevolent acts for other people . . . in fact by my count those number 0
Making a judgement based solely off of what Sevah told you isn't exactly a good thing either . . .
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 07, 2012, 12:27:39 PM
Can you kindly turn your sour tone toward someone more deserving?
Fine, although I think it would do a lot in many people's opinion of you if you were to actually TRY and help break this darn lock Sevah's got going
Well, again, as stated, I'm really busy and don't have the time to commit. And you should know I'm not really one to do or act a certain way just to please people.
Solo is a viable strat, I'm content with it.
Misread, sorry Cloud.
I don't see the point in this thread, but whatever.
Snare, there's little point trying to justify Sevz this round. Sevz is just Sevz.
He's not being helpful, he's being destructive. He doesn't like Shadow (understatement) and as Shadow was a major force behind RWL3 he seems determined to break it. He was invited to the beta as a show of good will and he shat all over us. Playing the way he is this round he continues to fling poo.
By watching the way the dung is spread out we can indeed learn some things about the game, but its by far the least useful form of feedback. Meanwhile, the rest of the game is land starved - preventing other people from playing as well as they might have otherwise.
Please don't stand up for him.
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
Misread, sorry Cloud.
I don't see the point in this thread, but whatever.
The point of this thread was to taunt VTN for taking a week, and 8 players (mostly vets), to reach my NW.
My bad. Carry on then.
Quote from: cloud on February 07, 2012, 12:38:41 PM
The point of this thread was to taunt VTN for taking a week, and 8 players (mostly vets), to reach my NW.
I think most other people's points are that VTN took so long to do so because only the top solo players have access to major land flow, Sevah pretty much owns the market, nobody really has any idea what they're doing, and Sevah and his chums have worked to batter us down (just yesterday, Sevah chaosed about 30 mil of our networth, any idea how we should protect against that?)
We have made some ground this round, but we lost it almost as quickly as we make it, you guys have a pretty good head start on us which makes it pretty difficult :/
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
Misread, sorry Cloud.
I don't see the point in this thread, but whatever.
Snare, there's little point trying to justify Sevz this round. Sevz is just Sevz.
He's not being helpful, he's being destructive. He doesn't like Shadow (understatement) and as Shadow was a major force behind RWL3 he seems determined to break it. He was invited to the beta as a show of good will and he shat all over us. Playing the way he is this round he continues to fling poo.
By watching the way the dung is spread out we can indeed learn some things about the game, but its by far the least useful form of feedback. Meanwhile, the rest of the game is land starved - preventing other people from playing as well as they might have otherwise.
Please don't stand up for him.
I think you'll find, after being informed (specifically by shadows edit) that I was only sticking up for myself. Others seem to split hairs in an attempt to hold their ground in an argument which undoubtedly roots back to a dislike of myself. I don't believe I was in the wrong-- I was accused of misusing the test server and chasing noobs away, when infact I did the opposite in the test server and am
teaching people.
Quote from: Sharptooh on February 07, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
Quote from: cloud on February 07, 2012, 12:38:41 PM
The point of this thread was to taunt VTN for taking a week, and 8 players (mostly vets), to reach my NW.
I think most other people's points are that VTN took so long to do so because only the top solo players have access to major land flow, Sevah pretty much owns the market, nobody really has any idea what they're doing, and Sevah and his chums have worked to batter us down (just yesterday, Sevah chaosed about 30 mil of our networth, any idea how we should protect against that?)
We have made some ground this round, but we lost it almost as quickly as we make it, you guys have a pretty good head start on us which makes it pretty difficult :/
Maybe if VTN didn't have 75% of the land (not including Sevz) spread across 8 people they'd have a chance. That's the major problem with clan play; land starvation, and it's even worse when there's already a lock going on. Also if you guys didn't constantly online me I might be more open to the idea of opposing sevz rather than being indifferent in the name of profit.
We approached you rather early on and asked for your assistance, you made it pretty clear you didn't want to help.
I wasn't aware of my clan members onlining you, if you'd have told me or Vargath we might have worked something out, although in light of recent events I have no doubt we will incease such activities, I've seen you helping Sevah out.
Quote from: cloud on February 07, 2012, 12:47:20 PM
Maybe if VTN didn't have 75% of the land (not including Sevz) spread across 8 people they'd have a chance.
And how do you suggest we remedy this Cloud?
split clans? clan runs?
The only thing I've done to help Sevz is buy his food off the market. Put some food out for lower and I'll buy it, simple solution. Also Vargath was one of the ones who have onlined me.
I declined earlier because you were all so low that helping you would have made me the target with no benefit.
Quote from: windhound on February 07, 2012, 12:35:17 PM
By watching the way the dung is spread out we can indeed learn some things about the game, but its by far the least useful form of feedback.
Same method I use to figure out what owls eat!!
Quote
Maybe if VTN didn't have 75% of the land (not including Sevz) spread across 8 people they'd have a chance. That's the major problem with clan play; land starvation, and it's even worse when there's already a lock going on. Also if you guys didn't constantly online me I might be more open to the idea of opposing sevz rather than being indifferent in the name of profit.
Dude there has been a small team devoted to scraping up land and locking it with sevs. You can't possibly think that VTN is to blame for land starvation, can you?
Quote from: Peace Alliance on February 07, 2012, 01:35:37 PM
Dude there has been a small team devoted to scraping up land and locking it with sevs. You can't possibly think that VTN is to blame for land starvation, can you?
They're to blame for land starving themselves. I'm not land starved, neither are some other unclanned individuals.
Notice
Let Death Rain Upon Sevah! (#36)
Nice one firetooth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14)
Quote from: cloud on February 07, 2012, 01:44:49 PM
They're to blame for land starving themselves. I'm not land starved, neither are some other unclanned individuals.
Breaking up as a clan wouldn't be viable, we need the aid limit high, and we need the clan forums for co-ordination.
Quote from: cloud on February 07, 2012, 12:58:21 PM
The only thing I've done to help Sevz is buy his food off the market. Put some food out for lower and I'll buy it, simple solution. Also Vargath was one of the ones who have onlined me.
I declined earlier because you were all so low that helping you would have made me the target with no benefit.
I didn't realise Vargath onlined you, all the same if you had issues you could have PMed me.
And now you are declining because?
Ok.... I did not online cloud. I messaged him asking if he was done and then after ten minutes of no message from him, I hit him... :P
On a sidenote, sevah has been broken... Attack and take the land while it is available!
nice job
now you have to steal all those cities ^_^
murder is your friend, methinks
Quote from: Vargarth on February 07, 2012, 04:29:01 PM
Ok.... I did not online cloud. I messaged him asking if he was done and then after ten minutes of no message from him, I hit him... :P
On a sidenote, sevah has been broken... Attack and take the land while it is available!
That's a blatant lie. The only message I've received from you was when you complained about me stealing all your cities almost a week ago.
It seems he had motive to online you, then.
tsk tsk
I'd like to start this reply with by sticking my finger up at the retarded likes of windhound shadow and PA. Absolute dogs for talking junk. I'm trying to help but you idiots are too stupid to listen.
Shadow said I'm not tryin to help. More like this pecker doesn't respond. Just yesterday I sent another random message this time about taking cities.
What do you all expect of me? to be sitting really low letting you losers win? (Directed at Sharpy and those like him) stiff, you can't break you don't get.
Before you ignorant administrators go blaming me, Take note how VTN was playing defensive in the first days. Take note how Sharptooth was getting sent heavy rounded defence. He played beta too, but due to utter incompetence he's a sore loser rather than your local emperor.
PA gets all hostile in the forums but never in the game? you need to get laid
Windy, you have the ability of going completely unseen. Inbox me if you've got questions before jumping to assumptions.
Sharpy can't do nothing. Firetooth hides from everyone.
Shadow I think you going through inboxes like you do is a violation. Using private knowledge for your own gain is sneaky but to insult me by saying I'm doing nothing to help is truly arrogant. Do you want me to tell you things you made before I'm important?
As far as I know, everyone has someone helping them in the game. I'm offering help to the n00bs and my mates. As usual I jump up at the start of the round. As usual you all make up some trash about me cos you don't know what your doing so hate on me.
Ungrateful turds. Time to stomp and make a mess.
you were just gagged for your rudeness once, Sevah. Another post like that and you'll get a longer one.
Shadow
Modding
EDIT: apparently peace is less forgiving than I am.
Quote from: Sevah on February 07, 2012, 07:24:29 PM
I'd like to start this reply with by sticking my finger up at the retarded likes of windhound shadow and PA. Absolute dogs for talking junk. I'm trying to help but you idiots are too stupid to listen.
Shadow said I'm not tryin to help. More like this pecker doesn't respond. Just yesterday I sent another random message this time about taking cities.
What do you all expect of me? to be sitting really low letting you losers win? (Directed at Sharpy and those like him) stiff, you can't break you don't get.
Before you ignorant administrators go blaming me, Take note how VTN was playing defensive in the first days. Take note how Sharptooth was getting sent heavy rounded defence. He played beta too, but due to utter incompetence he's a sore loser rather than your local emperor.
PA gets all hostile in the forums but never in the game? you need to get laid
Windy, you have the ability of going completely unseen. Inbox me if you've got questions before jumping to assumptions.
Sharpy can't do nothing. Firetooth hides from everyone.
Shadow I think you going through inboxes like you do is a violation. Using private knowledge for your own gain is sneaky but to insult me by saying I'm doing nothing to help is truly arrogant. Do you want me to tell you things you made before I'm important?
As far as I know, everyone has someone helping them in the game. I'm offering help to the n00bs and my mates. As usual I jump up at the start of the round. As usual you all make up some trash about me cos you don't know what your doing so hate on me.
Ungrateful turds. Time to stomp and make a mess.
Sevs, I suggest you re-read the agreement you made when you signed up for turbo, it explicitly states that your inbox is monitored and that you should refrain from posting personal information. That is because this is a game for kids.
To quote the message you read when you signed up (emphasis Retto's, lol):
QuoteThe in-game messaging system is MONITORED by impartial admins, as it is part of our game. It's a really BAD idea to disclose personal (I.E. Not pertaining to the game) information across this message system. The message system, also, is subject to the rules of the game; swearing, whether explicit or masked, is not tolerated.
This is a safe environment, and you clearly have no respect for that. Shadow, windy, Shael, and myself cannot devote our entire lives to following your every move to ensure that you are being appropriate, that is why we will gag you, and eventually ban you if you cannot commit yourself to being appropriate.
QuotePeople like Volk used the test server to lock and test strategies, I was one of the few that actually used it to help the coding process (I know you were one assisting in this, too) but please don't imply I was cheating or have any advantage.
I provided quite a bit of feedback Snare. Yes, I tested strategies, and almost incidentally locked the test server, but as you well know, I am prepared to give advice, right down to the exact build numbers I am using, to help people come along and get better.
Sevz has been helping me more this round then I have been helping him, to be 100% honest. Does learning the game really matter whether you have access to 10k land rather then 100k land? No, if you really are that big of a noob, then it doesnt matter how much land you have. If you are focused on just learning about this server then your score really shouldnt matter. Whether or not Sevz is providing feedback himself or Shadow has to go on his account he is helping find things to be fixed.
Everyone has to be so god darn hateful over this "internet rats" all the time. Who gives a rats butt if sevz is working with 10 people, all the more props to him for organizing his alliances. (Duh?)
Then you go and gag Sevz because he says something against the admins and attack Snare? Did anyone not see what firetooth was posting? Douchebag? When did that become appropriate for this website, where was the warning there?
I lose more and more faith all the time.
The problem with working with that many people is that he is getting the benefits of teamwork without the clan dynamic, which is not really an intended part of the code. Abusing the market to pass net around aid limits is still abuse. This is of course showing a hole in the code which we will have to remedy, but now that the hole is known, continuing to abuse it is not at all helpful to anyone.
Again, the problem really is that our rules are not clearly defined in regards to what "code abuse" really means - this will have to be remedied. Which is a shame, because before now there was really not any need for it because people here were generally not inclined to cheat to get ahead once asked nicely not to.
Making people look at his account to see what is going on is not helpful at all, and wastes more of my time than the alternative, which is why I have no patience for his nonsense.
Forgive us for thinking that Sevs' post was a tad more offensive than anything else in this thread. Also given that he just got off another gag, there really was no excuse for it.
Sevah I would make a long detailed post rebuking every comment and claim you have made, but due to past experience (where you more often that not ignore these posts and continue anyway to post Vulgar insults against me anyway) I've decided not to waste my time.
I would however like to clear one thing up, you always assume that me having a go at you is due to some severe jealously I have of you being a great player; this is simply not true, I am not a good player, probably mediocre at best, the reason I give you hate is because you're a small minded douchebag who often acts like an ignorant, stroppy 3 year in respects their attitude towards other people who don't agree with your warped ideas and ideals.
And no, VTN was not really going to dominate the server, if you hadn't come along someone from our clan might have ended up in first, but we would definitely not be locking in the fashion you have taken to, the primary aim of the clan was to have fun, advance people's knowledge of the new code base (although this has been slowed down severely by your locking) and advance diplomacy as a major factor for RWL 3.0/
Please don't assume I have a go at you because you're doing well Sevah when this is obviously not the reason I am complaining.
Quote from: Alazar is Back on February 08, 2012, 12:18:33 PM
Sevz has been helping me more this round then I have been helping him, to be 100% honest.
Of course Alazar, that's why Sevah has about 5x more networth than the person below him . . . besides if you are who I think you are, you're not particularly good at this new game, mostly because you don't bother protecting things properly.
Let's not stoop to namecalling please, Sevah did more than enough of that already.
Sevz is lucky. We really should have broken him yesterday, but he lucked out in that somebody messed up.
Also Alazar, stop acting like anybody values your opinion. Your a follower, not a leaderer, and nobody respects you because of said inability to function alone. you always ride off the success of others, and always help the jerks. The fact you help Sevah makes me respect you even less. Honestly, if I was admin sevz would be banned for the whole round for abusing loopholes and abusing his beta access, and you would probs be disabled for a week. Your lucky the admins here are so fair.
QuoteThen you go and gag Sevz because he says something against the admins and attack Snare?
Quoted for ridiculousness. You're such a massive sycophant, it's really a bit revolting. Your not even a bad player, but you just seem set on being unpopular and unliked.
Firetooth, please stop making personal attacks. Try to express yourself without stooping to that level for the sake of everyone that has to read these forums. I can tell you're passionate about this, you're displaying textbook defense mechanisms to voice your opinion, but please refrain from the insults.
I'll tone it down a bit. ;)
To quote windy though, he is a twit for helping sevz.
I'm on a boat, with T-Pain.
That is all.
*T-pain.
Quote from: Firetooth on February 08, 2012, 02:50:14 PM
I'll tone it down a bit. ;)
To quote windy though, he is a twit for helping sevz.
ehh, to each his own. I could just as well say you're a twit for helping your brother, it really holds no more relevance than your statement. Anyways, thanks for being a bit more understanding.
Quote from: Gen. Volkov on February 08, 2012, 05:30:07 AM
QuotePeople like Volk used the test server to lock and test strategies, I was one of the few that actually used it to help the coding process (I know you were one assisting in this, too) but please don't imply I was cheating or have any advantage.
I provided quite a bit of feedback Snare. Yes, I tested strategies, and almost incidentally locked the test server, but as you well know, I am prepared to give advice, right down to the exact build numbers I am using, to help people come along and get better.
Yeah, I realize that, sorry to use you as a scapegoat Dan. My point was only to dismiss the accusation that I abused BETA, and 'inadvertently' shift the blame to you. ;)
Ha, just playing around, I know you're solid, you helped me out at the beginning, & for the record would never abuse anything. I personally think you should have been a mod years ago.
QuoteYeah, I realize that, sorry to use you as a scapegoat Dan. My point was only to dismiss the accusation that I abused BETA, and 'inadvertently' shift the blame to you. Wink
Ha, just playing around, I know you're solid, you helped me out at the beginning, & for the record would never abuse anything. I personally think you should have been a mod years ago.
Alright then.
Firetooth, conveinent that you chop that quote, and don't include the part about you saying the words butt bag. My question was never answered and Sharptoothy said it again. A butt bag cleans a vagina, and you are saying those words on a site that is pg-13 at best, if you two are going to constantly kiss butt to the community and the admins you may as well act respectable and find better words to express your anger...tut tut.
Sharpy, you must be sadly mistaken on who I am, because I believe I have a 20% something defense ratio currently. And I also believe I have been ranked above you since like day two of the month...
Say whatever you want to about sevz, he is an butt? Well no poo sherlock! He is cocky and arrogant? WHO DOESN'T know that? He is probably the best player at this place, and he has always defended me, helped me whether I asked or not, and never once betrayed me. I have lead plenty of teams in the past, because of the caliber of players I chose my alliance with over the years, I have kinda been sitting in the shadows. Snare will tell you, Obliterator if he was still here, sevz will tell you, shade would tell you, i don't remember who else I really played with, but the point remains.
Anddddddd, just because I stick up for sevz doesn't mean I am following him, and not being a leader and all that nonsense. Look up some old UMD threads, I have no problem being the only one with an opinion against 10 others, because im not all wishy washy like you losers.
Shadow, are you trying to force everyone to do exactly as you want them too? Who cares, if we don't clan up and work together? I was unaware about the market situation being abuse...I mean, you can do that anywhere. People have done that since the dawn of time. Want to fix that? Or at least kind of fix that? Make a unanimous market.
Is Sevz bound to give feedback? Does he have a contract or something? No, everyone knows he is competitive, and if he chooses to keep his secrets hidden to his enemies, or other people then so be it. Shads, you need to end this communist regime you are trying to put into power.
And for the last time Firetooth and Sharptooth, get off of your duck high horses, you two are ridiculous the way you run around trying to be police and kiss butt all the time.
Crap is also synonymous and means the same thing as several other ruder words, but the fact it's slang and seen as less insulting means it's not filtered. butt has been used by various people and never been warned for, make a decent point and stop nit picking.
Sevz is good, but if he was as great as you say, he wouldn't have done this when every vet either wasn't playing, or was just learning to play again. He is an opportunistic rat bag who does not want to help the staff and is throwing an online tantrum. He'd be irrelevant in turbo if his crew of rejects didn't keep helping him. Guaranteed if Shadow, Kilk and Windy were all playing he would be broke. Varg took 170 k off him two days ago.
When did you lead this team? Show an immort. Oh right, you never have. You never even have any role of power. All you do is get your orders and follow them, then suck up to whoever is giving them, be it shade, snare, or sevz.
Also, your "opinion" is usually not commonly held because it's undesirable, like claiming african americans should be grateful their ancestors were enslaved because they now have a better quality of life.
Finally, stop acting like anybody values your opinion. Again, nobody cares. Go and grovel and that feet of whoever's coat trails your riding boot you're stuck on and quit trying to tell anybody else what to do. Subserviently nodding and doing what your told suits you better then issuing orders.
Guys, please knock it off. This is going nowhere.
Alazar, please stop testing the word filters so much if and when you do respond. You can express yourself without swearing, I am sure of it. Please put in the effort.
Shadow
Modding
@Alazar and Firetooth: this is a completely inappropriate way to talk to each other. If you cannot speak with civility you will be gagged. This is the only warning you will get.
If a kids parent saw this conversation they would probably not think this is a save environment for a 12 year old. That's what we're aiming for; please keep that in perspective.
*locks stupid topic*