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Discussion => Turbo Discussion => Topic started by: The Lady Shael on June 28, 2008, 06:05:36 PM

Title: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: The Lady Shael on June 28, 2008, 06:05:36 PM
Redwall: Warlords Turbo
41 of the 117 Warlords in the game are considered active.

14 Warlords have been destroyed, and 37 Warlords have been abandoned.
18 accounts have been disabled by Administration.
There are 0 Warlord protectorates, and 13 active Clans.

1. Firetooth (#27)
$12,927,753,103 with 28,114 Acres

2. Jinx (#34)
$9,635,716,578 with 17,306 Acres

3. Daughters of Delor (#10)
$7,450,212,666 with 28,621 Acres

4. Sharptooth (#36)
$6,855,079,909 with 30,161 Acres

5. Saladin (#8)
$6,217,864,911 with 93,458 Acres

6. Figure Ape (#69)
$3,895,580,340 with 83,364 Acres

7. Mr. King (#5)
$3,823,883,787 with 8,843 Acres

8. riddick (#28)
$3,667,743,597 with 54,657 Acres

9. Marell (#29)
$2,628,671,188 with 44,523 Acres

10. Lancaster (#62)
$2,483,228,656 with 26,992 Acres

11. Thomas Kreisman Is Drinking Milk (#9)
$2,114,323,540 with 37,763 Acres

12. Cody (#11)
$2,015,674,308 with 175,502 Acres

13. Feragoh the Assasian (#12)
$1,705,251,258 with 56,931 Acres

14. The Obliterator (#25)
$1,486,384,914 with 38,213 Acres

15. Mistaken Identity (#38)
$1,276,578,279 with 17,591 Acres

Most Rats
Daughters of Delor (#10)
331,227,846 Rats

Most Weasels
Firetooth (#27)
376,995,536 Weasels

Most Stoats
Firetooth (#27)
524,871,902 Stoats

Most Skiffs
Jinx (#34)
827,474,000 Skiffs

Most Food
Lancaster (#62)
55,275,461,415 Food

Most Cash
iluvashley (#52)
409,328,585,922 Cash

Most Leaders
Saladin (#8)
13,742,927 Leaders

Most Loyalty
Feathertooth (#33)
543,910,028 Loyalty

Most Land
Cody (#11)
175,502 Land

Most Total Offenses
Feathertooth (#33)
3,224 Total Offenses

Most Total Defenses
Land Farm (Free Land) (#21)
2,456 Total Defenses



Cody (#11) should have been disabled for intentional maxxing at the end.
kell was also disabled earlier in the day for intentional maxxing.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Saladin on June 28, 2008, 06:06:43 PM
*Cheers for Firetooth*

I thought it ended at 9p.m. Eastern Time...  :(


Quote from: The Lady Shael on June 28, 2008, 06:05:36 PM

Most Skiffs
Jinx (#34)
827,474,000 Skiffs


darn!!!! That's alotta Skiffs!!!
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
Close, if only Snare had showed up to the team run last night, we'da had it
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
Close, if only Snare had showed up to the team run last night, we'da had it
You would have had it if we wouldn't have messed you up about an hour ago. Even so your lying still made you lose.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:10:59 PM
Actually I had indeed intended to aid Shael like I said, but I somewhat noobishly forgot about the aid limit when my clan asked for cash  :P
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 28, 2008, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
Close, if only Snare had showed up to the team run last night, we'da had it

Yeah definetly.

Quote from: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:08:02 PM
Close, if only Snare had showed up to the team run last night, we'da had it
You would have had it if we wouldn't have messed you up about an hour ago. Even so your lying still made you lose.

He never lied, we intended to aid shael, he was out of aid credits...
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Coral on June 28, 2008, 06:12:06 PM
Wow, that ending was most displeasing as a whole. Otherwise I can say the lowest rank I ever finished is 6th.
The cheating was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 28, 2008, 06:13:31 PM
Quote from: Coral on June 28, 2008, 06:12:06 PM
Wow, that ending was most displeasing as a whole. Otherwise I can say the lowest rank I ever finished is 7th.
The cheating was pretty bad.

I thought it was awesome. A fight until the very end.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Coral on June 28, 2008, 06:15:01 PM
This is  what kell got disable for:

     Attacker       Defender       Outcome
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:32 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Naval Assault
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:26 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:23 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:19 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:16 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:12 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:15:23 PM
Yes, you should see our clan msn convo, many exlcamation points and typo's from fast order giving, definatly beats last time I tried for emp

Edit: Yes, Snare was naughty, I told him to max me, intending to get my ratio up high enough to block your open attack ops, he misunderstood
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:15:23 PM
Yes, you should see our clan msn convo, many exlcamation points and typo's from fast order giving, definatly beats last time I tried for emp

Edit: Yes, Snare was naughty, I told him to max me, intending to get my ratio up high enough to block your open attack ops, he misunderstood
Breaking rules right there, buddy, no? You were obviously part of it--you're not allowed to max for those reasons. The only reason you're allowed to max is if you're grabbing, and that was obviously not grabbing. Add to that, it was you who requested it (in your own words).

QuoteAttacker       Defender       Outcome
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:32 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Naval Assault
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:26 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:23 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:19 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:16 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held
Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:53:12 -0600      Cody (#11)
Clan: {_|^|_}      Jinx (#34)
Clan:      Guerilla Strike
Defense Held

Have fun explaning that--they were all defenses held. If it would have been grabbing, you'd have been fine. You intentionally requested to be max'ed, and Snare's not some pushover to know the difference. And why fail 6x? If you wanted to be grabbed from, he would have seen after 1x.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: The Obliterator on June 28, 2008, 06:20:02 PM
nope he means taking land to get leader land ratio up high
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 28, 2008, 06:20:21 PM
Quote from: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 06:18:08 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:15:23 PM
Yes, you should see our clan msn convo, many exlcamation points and typo's from fast order giving, definatly beats last time I tried for emp

Edit: Yes, Snare was naughty, I told him to max me, intending to get my ratio up high enough to block your open attack ops, he misunderstood
Breaking rules right there, buddy, no?

Noone ever said he didnt [edited].


[edit: no mean name-calling, Alazar.)
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:20:38 PM
When I told him to max me it was witht he intention of him actually breaking me, hence getting my ratio up, which is not against the rules, you yourself did it at the end, his misunderstanding is what caused the mess
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: The Lady Shael on June 28, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
What a crazy first round back. At least I fulfilled my personal goal, getting on the immortalization. =p Even if a ton of it belonged to other people, proving once again my only skill is diplomacy...
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 28, 2008, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:20:38 PM
When I told him to max me it was witht he intention of him actually breaking me, hence getting my ratio up, which is not against the rules, you yourself did it at the end, his misunderstanding is what caused the mess

Shade maybe you should get the logs out....screen shot it as well.

Shael you did well on your own too =)
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 06:24:08 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:20:38 PM
When I told him to max me it was witht he intention of him actually breaking me, hence getting my ratio up, which is not against the rules, you yourself did it at the end, his misunderstanding is what caused the mess
I max'ed him out hurting him--murder after murder after murder. We were drawing blood--your clan broke rules.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on June 28, 2008, 06:33:09 PM
So you're saying Snare is enough of a fool to fail attack after attack after attack while trying to get land, or that he thought you meant cheat, so he did?

Either way, the fact that you benefited from cheating remains whether or not it was intentional. This is the second time this set your clan has cheated while claiming you didn't know what you were doing, and both times you kept the benefits from it. Nothing is going to be done, but I still think it is incredibly wrong.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:51:19 PM
Coby, i was refering to you taking Feathertooths land so that he could get enough of a ratio to open attack ops on me, I wanted the same thing done, but for defensive purposes, which is not against the rules, so to clarify, what I asked for was not against the rules, what ended up happening was, And Death, I agree, Snare must have known what he was doing, although he hasn't replied to me yet at all, I don't know why he did what he did rather than what I said, which was to attack my troop hole in weasels. Snare broke a rule, not the clan.

-Also Death, when Kell maxed Shael, Kell was disabled, Shael remained maxed, so you could say she also kept the benefit of cheating, and my clan was not the only one to benefit from the malfunction of the clan lock, everyone else also kept the benefits from it, so don't try to make it sounds like we're being favored here

We may be a pack of lying thieving backstabbing murderous market thefters, but cheaters we are not.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on June 28, 2008, 07:07:12 PM
You benefited from it multiple times, big difference. This just goes to show that some players here are apparently above the rules.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: Shade on June 28, 2008, 06:51:19 PM
Coby, i was refering to you taking Feathertooths land so that he could get enough of a ratio to open attack ops on me, I wanted the same thing done, but for defensive purposes, which is not against the rules, so to clarify, what I asked for was not against the rules, what ended up happening was, And Death, I agree, Snare must have known what he was doing, although he hasn't replied to me yet at all, I don't know why he did what he did rather than what I said, which was to attack my troop hole in weasels. Snare broke a rule, not the clan.

-Also Death, when Kell maxed Shael, Kell was disabled, Shael remained maxed, so you could say she also kept the benefit of cheating, and my clan was not the only one to benefit from the malfunction of the clan lock, everyone else also kept the benefits from it, so don't try to make it sounds like we're being favored here

We may be a pack of lying thieving backstabbing murderous market thefters, but cheaters we are not.
There's nothing against grabbing for land. I can grab for as much land as I want. True that I dropped land after--that was to get him to a more-favorable ratio. I did the same thing in more extreme form after when I dropped my own land. The difference here is that we grabbed--he attacked to max and thus protect you. Even so we were able to open ops (though it took quite a bit). The cheating HAD helped you signifigantly--if you would have NOT cheated, yes you would have been murdered and then continued to be opened on. You wanted to avoid that--so that's where you or Cody cheated. From your own words (they seem to have a double meaning), you admit to cheating and asking him to max you. Look at how spread out the attacks are--about 3 seconds. If Cody was really accidentally doing so (such as fast-hitting), it would be much faster. He had time to see his troops in yellow--showing he lost. So why do it six times? Simple--to cheat.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 07:28:36 PM
You don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying, Yes, Snare cheated, but I did not, and did not ask him to, I intended to have him max me with succesfull legal land taking attacks to boost my ratio, I can prove this with my logs of our msn conversation. However, you are right, Snare cheated, there's no denying that, I am telling you that I was not involved in his decision to do so
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on June 28, 2008, 07:30:20 PM
You're missing his point Coby. Snare is the cheater in all of this, Shade just benefited from it without wanting to.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shade on June 28, 2008, 07:32:47 PM
That said, for the sake of Snare's reputation, let's not convict him of cheating intentionally until he's had time to give his side of the story, I havn't gotten a chance to talk to him yet
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: kell on June 28, 2008, 08:36:45 PM
i did attack sheal knowing i would not break, BUT i didnt max her i burned off my troops to make my run more productive. can't remember who did it earlier on the round (shadow made a topic about it) no action was taken against him so why against me?
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on June 28, 2008, 08:43:57 PM
Because "someone" pushed the issue.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 28, 2008, 09:01:41 PM
Quote from: CobyCopper on June 28, 2008, 07:21:18 PM
Look at how spread out the attacks are--about 3 seconds. If Cody was really accidentally doing so (such as fast-hitting), it would be much faster. He had time to see his troops in yellow--showing he lost. So why do it six times? Simple--to cheat.

For all we know maybe thats what he did. He just may have fast attacked not paying attention. I doubt it but its possible. He has dial-up so that would explain how slow they are to you and me.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Firetooth on June 29, 2008, 03:26:13 AM
Quote from: The Lady Shael on June 28, 2008, 06:22:40 PM
What a crazy first round back. At least I fulfilled my personal goal, getting on the immortalization. =p Even if a ton of it belonged to other people, proving once again my only skill is diplomacy...
Well, you aided me 3bil of my net :P

Thanks saladin! My first win, I made up about 4bil of the net, the rest was shael's and feathertooth's, snir forgot to run :D btw, on 22bil net I had 1.2bil skiffs saladin, so 800mil is NUFFIN! :D
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Sharptooh on June 29, 2008, 07:11:13 AM
  I really suprised myself there, I think that's my highest net and I made around 6.4 bil of it myself, I'd personally like to thank corsair, they aided me a lot of net earlier on and were a totally awesome clan  :)
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: thomaskreisman on June 29, 2008, 08:42:23 AM
that's the best networth I've ever had! ya!
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Firetooth on June 29, 2008, 09:21:04 AM
Yeah, you improved a lot last round ;)
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Wolf Snare on June 30, 2008, 05:29:17 PM
w00t, unbanned.

congrats firetooth on your win.

I wanted to clear up this cheating situation. I am not a cheat, those of you who have not joined RWL in the past year and a half, know me to be a stand up guy and a good friend. the only run in Ive ever had with cheating was the josh debacle, which I honestly didn't know he was cheating. When Josh finally admitted that he cheated, years after the fact, I pressed him for as much info as I could get, then reported to wolf bite.

I learned my lesson in regular with intentionally maxing years ago, and I am well aware of the rule and exceptions. Heck, I'm one of the ones who suggested that intentional maxing be a bannable offence.

I understand people are quick to judge me lately, and of course this incident gave plenty of snare haters the opportunity to bash him senseless while he was on "time out" from the forums.

I thought I might tell you what really happened...

incidentally, I showed up late to run, (again) and me ally and shade had just under an hour to attempt to push past firetooth, and win the round. We did best we could, but were on-lined steadily all run, to the point where, when we were nearly done, we barely accomplished any net at all.

With about 10 minutes left in the round, the enemy broke through and opened attacks on Shade. He hastily requested I max him with weasels, assuring me I would break his pitiful numbers, as it was his hole. Being in a rush myself, I mistakenly selected guerrilla strike instead of bombardment. As Alazar correctly assumed, I am on 26kbps dial up, and I f5 +enter to attack all of the time. I rarely wait around to load the screen, because it takes precious time out of my day.
Surely you all can fill in the rest.

Now, concerning my ban, I am obligated to apologize to all of those who were direct targets of mean snare. To tell the truth I have been under ALOT of stress due to real life issues, and it has (unfortunately) affected my attitude all around, including on these forums.

Over the past few weeks I've made many snide remarks that I am well aware were both inappropriate and uncalled for. I apologize mainly to Firetooth, as I let you get under my already irritated skin.

Shael, you know me better than most who have taken up arms against me recently, and I hope you know how sorry I am for what I did. I hope you believe me when I say that I never intentionally cheated..

                `Wolf Snare
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: The Lady Shael on June 30, 2008, 07:26:02 PM
*pats Snarecakes*
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: taekwondokid42 on June 30, 2008, 07:51:54 PM
why is intentional maxing bad? It is a strat.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on June 30, 2008, 08:46:53 PM
Quote from: taekwondokid42 on June 30, 2008, 07:51:54 PM
why is intentional maxing bad? It is a strat.

It was banned quite a few years ago, soon after i started playing together with snare so probably 2 years or so ago. It was banned because it was WAY to useful, believe me, me and snare used to use it alot ^_^
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Wolf Snare on June 30, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
Back then the game did not have open attack ops, so it was VERY overpowered.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Holby on June 30, 2008, 11:41:46 PM
Kudos Snarecakes.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Firetooth on July 01, 2008, 03:27:05 AM
Apology accepted snare, it's my fault for falling for baits as much as it is yours, and thanks! :)
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on July 01, 2008, 11:39:59 AM
Satisfactory explanation, I take back what I said. Sorry about that, it just honestly looked like cheating to me, I am not a "Snare hater".
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shadow on July 04, 2008, 10:41:13 PM
Interesting finish. How did the whole situation boil out in the end?
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Death on July 04, 2008, 10:55:04 PM
Shade tried to convince me that his clan was running so they could aid Shael, and the clan I was with believed them and was waiting.. so I onlined them all and some other people followed my lead, so Firetooth still won. I have to admit, it was really fun.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Shadow on July 04, 2008, 11:01:47 PM
Nicely done. Sorry I missed it.
Title: Re: Turbo Round 11 Immortalization
Post by: Alazar is Back on July 04, 2008, 11:42:15 PM
Quote from: Death on July 04, 2008, 10:55:04 PM
Shade tried to convince me that his clan was running so they could aid Shael, and the clan I was with believed them and was waiting.. so I onlined them all and some other people followed my lead, so Firetooth still won. I have to admit, it was really fun.

Again. He was not lieing, had he not used his aid credits to fund our runs all of that was going to shael.