1 ? Shadow (#6) 78,749 $673,229,983 BlackFly Stoat Mossflower
2 ? Snowy Fir (#15) 280,140 $536,630,572 BlackFly Wildcat Mossflower
Complete land lock while I've been bashing ponies.
Hate to say I told ya so
Join clan hope for a chance
Shadow obliterated the ability to take down people that slip out of range, what do you expect? pathetic
let him have it, he learnt how to work his way into the coding position then make a game heaps easy to dominate. I told you all =D what'd I know aye?
I guess you'll all be needing me for a takedown strategy
You guys got broken from a bigger lead then we have last round
People didn't like the locking, we still pulled off top two >:D
I reckon I got 20 complaints about the land being locked up, soon as it was flowing no one knew how to use it. haha. I know all the reasons why but don't really care to elaborate. Could take you out, not really bothered about 3.0 beta, hopefully someone else does the deed
join clan brutal for a chance to break land lock, #5 and #7 need to be constantly murdered and sacked for being annoying
Anyone else find it funny that when Snare and Sevah dominate it is them dominating in spite of my best efforts to stop them being able to by making the code hard for the people on top, and when I do it is because I made it easy to dominate on purpose so that I could win?
Sorry, you lost me. Can you rephrase that?
when sevz does it its cuz hes awesome and shadow sux
when shadow does it hes a cheating cheater who rigged the game
Cheater
Haha that was a really bad sentence, fair enough.
When Snev was winning, they kept saying that despite my best efforts to make it harder for them to win, they were still doing it.
Now that Snowy and I are doing well, they say it is because actually it's really easy to dominate because I rigged it that way.
you should really stop cheating
Quote from: Night Wolf on April 08, 2012, 04:11:07 PM
you should really stop cheating
Sorry =(
But it's so much fun to win by rigging the game.
Wait, are you really cheating? Or are you guys being sarcastic?
He is being sarcastic.
Well the diference between when sevz and snare were locking and now is that there are two of us constantly on the alert and waiting for a chance to murder and takedown anyone that remotely has a chance of breaking. ie anyone who is massing troops.... that is why we have maintained out lead for so long
Wait, who are you in the games? Are you Snowy Fir :o ???
Quote from: Sevz on April 07, 2012, 11:22:02 PM
Complete land lock while I've been bashing ponies.
wat.
No, seriously. wat.
As explained at the start, the NPC players are mediocre at best. The top NPC players can gain the top ten if they're lucky, but usually can't keep it.
They're overall pretty dumb, infact they can keep themselves in check by doing dumb things.
There is absolutely no reason to bash the NPCs, other than being a mediocre player yourself and having the ponies be the only targets you can break.
Quote from: The Obliterator on April 08, 2012, 08:27:50 PM
He is being sarcastic.
Well the diference between when sevz and snare were locking and now is that there are two of us constantly on the alert and waiting for a chance to murder and takedown anyone that remotely has a chance of breaking. ie anyone who is massing troops.... that is why we have maintained out lead for so long
No he is really cheating! Ask Sevah he will tell you :p
He changed the game so only he can win except Sevah can take him down and win any time he wants an disprove his own point, except hes not going to because hes far too busy ponybashing.
Yea it doesn't make sense to me either
To Windy, i'm bashing ponies cos they don't complain. The playerbase is dwindling due to admin foolishness so yeah continue to insult me for not hitting the last 10 active warlords. Rwl is a recreational thing, when it's gone don't blame me.
Sign up and take me on tough guy.
To Shadow, how can you say this game isn't rigged? For the last 2 months I've been in top spot suggesting changes and you've gone the opposite way every time cos you know better. *hahaha*
Now bugwall betalords is so great people can't be bothered playing.
Resets are supposed to be monthly and not whenever your enemy fails a few murders to kill health then chaos troops out of proportion to production.
To the public the game is Rigged, this is old news for me, try remember back when I made that account called Demonstration. That was my way of sayin shut up, look and listen. I guess redwall is in it's last days. When's the graduation?
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You used to be tough ny-NightWolf. Now your a lesser respected forum dweller. Do you even play? Prolly not cos the games turned to crud
To busy/lazy to learn 3.0. deleted my reg acccount after some hob nob murdered away my net like four runs in a row
-edit- the forums are my friend
We used to be bros.
Quote from: Sevz on April 09, 2012, 03:28:19 AM
We used to be bros.
Indeed we were. Actually miss working
for with you, it was always interesting.
Maybe ill sign up and let you teach me a few things :P
Bash away then Sevz.
But keeping the ponies downtrodden (again, not exactly necessary) is not an excuse for not being able to break Shadow / Snowy.
RWL has been dying for, I donno, 7 years now? Search around the forums, you're hardly the first person to proclaim its death is neigh. Most of those people have since left, but RWL is still hangin' around -- while many of the "pro" promis that looked down on us really have died.
Promi games have extreme issues of stagnation. Its an incredibly simple game at its heart and gets extremely repetitive. Occasional changes and reworks serve to keep the game interesting. If you want to see the changes as "rigging" that's fine.
There's actually been surprisingly few bugs of late. No, Shadow is not a bug. If you can give me a few examples of actual bugs I might take you more seriously, but it seems like you never can. Always screaming about bugs and incompetence, never any supporting evidence.
If you think RWL is dying you best abandon ship now. Leave us to our fate.
Seriously.
It gets old after a while, if RWL is dead then great. Leave.
If RWL is a place worth hanging around then great. Stop proclaiming its death.
Quote from: windhound on April 09, 2012, 09:24:51 AM
Bash away then Sevz.
But keeping the ponies downtrodden (again, not exactly necessary) is not an excuse for not being able to break Shadow / Snowy.
RWL has been dying for, I donno, 7 years now? Search around the forums, you're hardly the first person to proclaim its death is neigh. Most of those people have since left, but RWL is still hangin' around -- while many of the "pro" promis that looked down on us really have died.
Promi games have extreme issues of stagnation. Its an incredibly simple game at its heart and gets extremely repetitive. Occasional changes and reworks serve to keep the game interesting. If you want to see the changes as "rigging" that's fine.
There's actually been surprisingly few bugs of late. No, Shadow is not a bug. If you can give me a few examples of actual bugs I might take you more seriously, but it seems like you never can. Always screaming about bugs and incompetence, never any supporting evidence.
If you think RWL is dying you best abandon ship now. Leave us to our fate.
Seriously.
It gets old after a while, if RWL is dead then great. Leave.
If RWL is a place worth hanging around then great. Stop proclaiming its death.
I'll literally cry if it dies. :-[
I don't want rwl to die, more people would rather me here whether they admit it or not. My enemies get a challenge and my allies learn to change strategies. Pretty sure we all want the same thing which is a functioning game not some easy to dominate scheme that the first active defensive stance dictates the game in these strangleholds for 2 weeks and gets broken or runs away with an easy win. Persistence is the key to success. Instead of modifying troops and race mods accordingly shadow modified the game around the troops and race modifiers. The ramifications are a huge.
I told you all i'm not gonna lock this round, I think it was mainly because Ian asked me and Oblit second it. Sure I could put up a fight but what's the point? It'll only satisfy my enemy that it wasn't all in vain. I like a challenge but 3.0 is lunacy and i've tried explaining things to monkey. I demonstrated how easy it was to win yet never got heard
I'd rather withdraw from the forum discussion
I'll keep in touch via PM's. GL windy bro
Way to hop on that bandwagon oblit, very cowardly noble.
BTW, how would you suggest a takedown shadow? I tore him wide open using your 1 rat phail a week in, after that there was no way of getting through with leaders, because you changed the code again.
Anyone wonder why it's impossible to gain over 60% leaders? mmmm, shadows been tinkering again for his benefit.
Also, stay out of our message boxes and accounts altogether, cheater.
Quote from: Wolf Snare on April 09, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
Way to hop on that bandwagon oblit, very cowardly noble.
BTW, how would you suggest a takedown shadow? I tore him wide open using your 1 rat phail a week in, after that there was no way of getting through with leaders, because you changed the code again.
Anyone wonder why it's impossible to gain over 60% leaders? mmmm, shadows been tinkering again for his benefit.
Also, stay out of our message boxes and accounts altogether, cheater.
I only asked him to stop because it was getting stupid. Then Snowy Fir just came along... He can't be a newb!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Wolf Snare on April 09, 2012, 11:55:33 AM
because you changed the code again.
Anyone wonder why it's impossible to gain over 60% leaders? mmmm, shadows been tinkering again for his benefit.
Also, stay out of our message boxes and accounts altogether, cheater.
...no, I didn't change code since the round started, and leaders haven't changed since 3.0 was released. And I haven't seen any messages all round.
oh come off it bud...
QuoteSat, 31 Mar 2012 16:18:27 -0400
From Shadow (Admin) (#3) (?)
Please don't swear at/get in word matches with newbies, they are hard enough to keep around already.
What the hell are you even logging into your admin account for while playing? Didn't we establish a rule against that? It keeps happening while you two run, coincidence?
I was forwarded a message from the newb you were swearing at...
Anyway, you are imaginging code changes.
that's funny, I wasn't swearing at any noob, I was helping him... and funnily enough, you had a different excuse last time I accused you of this. Get your story straight.
And it wouldn't be the first time you've weaseled your way around changing things without announcing it. You're crookeder than a politician, it's a wonder you're not aspiring to be one.
Sevz: Its not what you say, but how you say it.
We always welcome constructive feedback. Your ideas may or may not get implemented, but they're always listened to.
However, going on rants about how this place is dead and the admins are jerks wont get you anything but a gag. Its not helpful.
The ramifications of screwing with the game formulas are indeed huge. Funny thing though, sometimes they turn out for the better.
Reg is inanely unbalanced and somewhat nonsensical, RWL3 is an attempt to make the game make 'sense.' With Reg, positive cash / food income is almost always a bad thing. It meant you were doing something wrong. Now it is generally a good thing.
With Reg you can emp with only food (I did it, with Nero). This has (sadly, imo) been fixed.
Not all change is bad. Sorting the good from the bad and making things work is a trick.
Snare: I can screenshot Shadow's conversation with the newbie in question if you'd like. I just checked, its legit. Member complained about an account sending messages with bad language, Shadow responded appropriately. Admins, even when playing, are allowed to check their own messages.
I'm not currently playing, as I'm watching my bot horde, so I'm free to check messages.
Also, afaik, all changes have been logged in the forum topic "____ Round Release Notes"
Shadow has been fairly careful to log all the changes he's made, especially those few changes made while the round is in progress.
That's funny that you'd accuse Oblit of jumping on the bandwagon, Snare, since it very much looks like once again you've added your voice the insane and illogical rants that come from sevs every time he's losing at the game.
I don't ever make code changes without posting about it because we don't have a version control system and if people don't know to update the files I change, someone is likely to overwrite my changes by accident.
Any change made to the test server is logged in the admin section of the forums, and announced publicly when it moves over to turbo. Any change made to turbo live is announced immediately.
The formula for leader gain has not been touched since the release of 3.0, and no code changes have been made to turbo code this round except windy's market display fix, which is as the title suggests, purely cosmetic.
I don't play this game because I have any vested interest in winning, I play it because I like most of the people here. Why would I cheat and risk their respect for a win that gains me literally nothing? It makes no sense.
Anyway, you're welcome to see screenies of my message this round if windy is patient enough to indulge your fantasy.
QuoteWith Reg you can emp with only food (I did it, with Nero). This has (sadly, imo) been fixed.
Not entirely, actually. It is slower and quite a bit riskier, but it is still possible to protect substantial food net if you are careful.
When did i ever jump on the band wagon? Im just calling things as i see them.
If you are talking about on the forums look under development i tried to get ideas from sevz looked at and i am generally just trying to keep the peace.
If you are talking about ingame i saw that you guys had won the last few rounds and i didn't think you needed any help so i joined another team. Iv been working with snowy and it was snowy who recruited shadow to our team.
Also i have been able to keep a 70%+ ratio with leaders. Although it takes your whole run and if the person you are attacking has sheilds up it takes a whole run of yours wasted to harm them and you can nearly never do it by yourself.
Come on snare you know me i wouldn't do this just to jump on the bandwagon. I am simply just stating my opinions like i always have. We are still bros and im sure we will still work together in the future.
Quote from: windhound on April 09, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
Sevz: Its not what you say, but how you say it.Your ideas may or may not get implemented, but they're always listened to. (and rebelled against)
The ramifications of screwing with the game formulas are indeed huge. Funny thing though, sometimes they turn out for the better.
Reg is inanely unbalanced and somewhat nonsensical, RWL3 is an attempt to make the game make 'sense.' With Reg, positive cash / food income is almost always a bad thing. It meant you were doing something wrong. Now it is generally a good thing.
With Reg you can emp with only food (I did it, with Nero). This has (sadly, imo) been fixed.
Not all change is bad. Sorting the good from the bad and making things work is a trick.
The answer is
There were no farmers, there were no cashers. Casher would have income, farmers should be in the green. Leaderer obviously not. Indier obviously not. Reseller possible. Scouter up on both.
Leader bonus's were too high, sacks were altering indier's strategies. Destruction is too common so resilience suggests leader defence
If you run a painted one you'd switch it up and either focus on 1 thing at a time or a bit of everything at once depending on objective and landscape of the server. That's the idea of the game. Not boost the key components of the counter strategy cos there's many approaches to a counter attack. Making indies tough to compete with leaderers doesn't work cos casher and farmer get left behind.
May aswell pester Oblit for a while and one day kill the sukka. Who are ya? Dragon or PiedPiper?
Wouldn't ya like to know :D
:'( And what did i do to deserve that...
On second thoughts i probably do deserve it after what iv been doing this round :D
It really upsets me to think that anyone who has come to RWL and is skimming the forums would be under the impression that the game is in turmoil. In actual fact it's more balanced then it's ever been. You two (sevs and snare) are the only ones who are discontented. It doesn't matter what we do to the game, you are always discontented. We have made changes you suggest, we have made changes that contradict what you are saying, you have even had to change around your narrative (last round we made it too hard to lock, this round we suddenly made it too easy).
From now on I don't want to see you post any complaints about the balance of the game outside of the development forum. When you do post them, I want them to follow these guidelines. I want to limit the space we devote to these silly discussions, and I want you guys to actually focus your attention here on RWL. Everybody respects how well you play the game - what we don't respect is the way you conduct yourselves on the forums.
When posting your suggestions in the dev forum, you must:
1. Write in complete sentences.
2. Explain what the problem is in detail.
3. Be specific.
4. Explain your solution(s) in detail.
5. Be specific.
6. Give us suggestions without being condescending.
8. Expect differences of opinion.
9. Be realistic.
Quote from: Peace Alliance on April 10, 2012, 08:02:04 AM
It really upsets me to think that anyone who has come to RWL and is skimming the forums would be under the impression that the game is in turmoil. In actual fact it's more balanced then it's ever been. You two (sevs and snare) are the only ones who are discontented. It doesn't matter what we do to the game, you are always discontented. We have made changes you suggest, we have made changes that contradict what you are saying, you have even had to change around your narrative (last round we made it too hard to lock, this round we suddenly made it too easy).
From now on I don't want to see you post any complaints about the balance of the game outside of the development forum. When you do post them, I want them to follow these guidelines. I want to limit the space we devote to these silly discussions, and I want you guys to actually focus your attention here on RWL. Everybody respects how well you play the game - what we don't respect is the way you conduct yourselves on the forums.
When posting your suggestions in the dev forum, you must:
1. Write in complete sentences.
2. Explain what the problem is in detail.
3. Be specific.
4. Explain your solution(s) in detail.
5. Be specific.
6. Give us suggestions without being condescending.
8. Expect differences of opinion.
9. Be realistic.
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Thanks for the food
I find this hole thing quite funny.