You go away for 6 months and the game is turned on its head. Killing holders in an emp round, now i know that i never did an emp round, but that doesn't really fit the RWL vibe I got to know. Maby shoulda been here to see the changes happen slowly, maby then i'd get it, I spose, but it don't seem that everyone likes it if im readin the forums right. Oblit kept me aprised of whats goin down most of the time, turbo seemling has become very bloodthirsty recently hasn't it. what happened?
Last time I checked killing was a last resort, and why do it anyway, its the easy way out. Sure it takes effort but not as much as leading without kills.
To do that takes real skill and friends who will help you out. So you can't get into the top 10, get someone to teach you how its done, I dare say most of the vets would gladly help, I mean theres an entire section on the forums dedicated to it isn't there. It's the way to go, beleive me, I did it. I can go top 10 within a few days of joining usually, and i float around the teens, specifics depend on the round, but you get the point, it can be done. Im not sayin this to blow my own trumpet, but to show what can be done.
And besides all of that what is the point of having the emp if nobody wants to work together to take him down. Dont take me the wrong way, im sure people want to kill him, and there are even some clans working to that end. But when it becomes "we have to kill him first so well kill the other clans"
or even "...so well wipe out their net" then whats the point? You kill their net, they kill yours and no one wins. The target is big enough that when he goes down the game will go crazy, there will be that much land floating around. Everyone will get a shot at the pickings and then we can have fun taking each other down, but if we do that now no one wins.
Also, why is the emp in protection? I think we need a bit of a repair to that, forgive me if its already been brought up, but I just got back from my uni work (college for all you non australians out there, man its fun when we get guests here but thats beside the point).
Yeah you're right, turbo has become very bloodthirsty of late, but I think its settling down.
The two previous rounds to this were the worst, with two clans (with pretty much the same members each time) fighting it out all round. One round was the clans Question vs Answer, the next, Guy vs Watchtower. In the latter, a supposedly new player arose, calling himself Zepplin on the forums (many believe Zepplin is Bob, though it is yet to be proven).
And I would argue that he is the cause of all the problems with this current round you are referring to. He has openly stated that he is killer for hire, and has already made 2 kills this round....each kill causes commotion on the forums, which is what he likes. But he hasn't been able to kill in a while now...in fact he's been killed 3 times himself.
I'd say things have settled out a bit, and we should be able to net peacefully until someone breaks the emp. I hope so anyway...
You and me both.
Marell is right. The only person killing is Zep and everyone else is ignoring him. The rest of us are sick of the blood.
I was killing zep everyday but I got bored of it, still it was funny :D
F.O.E. just wants a peacful round this time.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 15, 2009, 01:21:43 PM
F.O.E. just wants a peacful round this time.
why dont we just work together and kill the emperor....its kind of gay tha tzep is killing evryone...
the commotion of all of this is him, and he's the problem so why dont we ban him for this round?
Well we can't ban Zep because he didn't do anything. I like the idea of working together this one time just to show that there isn't any hard feelings.
Oddly enough, I just messaged the leader of "TheElite" asking if he wanted to combine forces.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 15, 2009, 07:33:24 PM
Well we can't ban Zep because he didn't do anything. I like the idea of working together this one time just to show that there isn't any hard feelings.
yeah like get a chatroom thingy and talk the whole thing out...
The leaders of all the turbo clans go talk together and work out their problems. Sounds like the UN to me.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 15, 2009, 07:53:22 PM
The leaders of all the turbo clans go talk together and work out their problems. Sounds like the UN to me.
lol
You ought to work together... This Emperor is built
[edit] realized i made no sense there...
Quote from: Peace Alliance on June 15, 2009, 08:56:56 PM
You ought to work together... This Emperor is build
BUILD?
Building what, a giant death ray?
Either way I am in support of all the clan leaders getting together.
Edited for grammer
All in favor of the clan leaders getting together say yes. All who don't want it, say no.
Ill start a poll in the polls section.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 16, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
All in favor of the clan leaders getting together say yes. All who don't want it, say no.
yes; it makes it 3x easier to kill nw.
Quote from: Zeppelin on June 16, 2009, 10:41:40 AM
yes; it makes it 3x easier to kill nw.
Just try it zepplin, get to know a games vibe before you go and slap everyone in the face.
Not a good way to make friends, and friends are VERY usefull round here.
The time will come when you want help, and no one will help.
aye would be more appropriate seeing its rwl
Who cares what this kid does.
He's just trying to get us to notice what he does so it seems like we care, and i for one do not.
Quote from: Red Fang on June 16, 2009, 07:41:26 PM
Who cares what this kid does.
He's just trying to get us to notice what he does so it seems like we care, and i for one do not.
sthu zep
Don't even talk to him Daryn. Lets see how long he can last without an ally.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 17, 2009, 04:27:19 PM
Don't even talk to him Daryn. Lets see how long he can last without an ally.
the more i kill the more i get paid to kill.
*Yawn* People are going to get bored with you. I'm already tired of you.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 17, 2009, 08:21:14 PM
*Yawn* People are going to get bored with you. I'm already tired of you.
vouch
*spam
I think that what Zep does is very amusing
he's is showing that if you want to have a big networth you need to be a bit more all rounded or someone can break protection and kill the top clanned empire.
if you are going to hold 2billion networth and leave a gap for someone to take your land when you've got no city, you deserve to be killed for playing sloppy.
our clan is smart and we have numbers of cities
with leaders on tough ratios and troops to defend littler people.
look at Zep like
he's the emperors aid as the emp doesn't attack us back :D
Mad Respect for Magnum Opus and Rush
good luck everyone on getting the emp, us three are doing it also so feel free to aid Rush or Magnum rats.
plus food for us to juggle it
Peace all
Sevz
Quote from: Sevz on June 18, 2009, 01:58:34 PM
I think that what Zep does is very amusing
he's is showing that if you want to have a big networth you need to be a bit more all rounded or someone can break protection and kill the top clanned empire.
if you are going to hold 2billion networth and leave a gap for someone to take your land when you've got no city, you deserve to be killed for playing sloppy.
our clan is smart and we have numbers of cities
with leaders on tough ratios and troops to defend littler people.
look at Zep like
he's the emperors aid as the emp doesn't attack us back :D
Mad Respect for Magnum Opus and Rush
good luck everyone on getting the emp, us three are doing it also so feel free to aid Rush or Magnum rats.
plus food for us to juggle it
Peace all
Sevz
cities are sometimes not worth the money btw
Don't get me wrong Sev. I like the war thing, but there is no point to kill anyone right now. In a round like this, it's a waste of turns. If he wants to keep it up, he can go ahead. It's going to be hard for him in later rounds.
Quote from: Daryn on June 18, 2009, 02:19:57 PM
Quote from: Sevz on June 18, 2009, 01:58:34 PM
I think that what Zep does is very amusing
he's is showing that if you want to have a big networth you need to be a bit more all rounded or someone can break protection and kill the top clanned empire.
if you are going to hold 2billion networth and leave a gap for someone to take your land when you've got no city, you deserve to be killed for playing sloppy.
our clan is smart and we have numbers of cities
with leaders on tough ratios and troops to defend littler people.
look at Zep like
he's the emperors aid as the emp doesn't attack us back :D
Mad Respect for Magnum Opus and Rush
good luck everyone on getting the emp, us three are doing it also so feel free to aid Rush or Magnum rats.
plus food for us to juggle it
Peace all
Sevz
cities are sometimes not worth the money btw
theyre also not worth billions of nw? nice
You can always recognize Sevah's posts by the fact that he uses the enter key in place of all punctuation
Quote from: Shadow on June 18, 2009, 03:15:22 PM
You can always recognize Sevah's posts by the fact that he uses the enter key in place of all punctuation
Yeah.
Wouldn't suprise me if Sevah and Zep are the same person lol
Quote from: TheSpaceman on June 16, 2009, 12:51:10 AM
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That is one of the funniest things I have read on these forums.
Genevieve, please don't spam unless it's in spa.
I don't think that was spam....
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 19, 2009, 06:03:53 PM
Genevieve, please don't spam unless it's in spa.
You saying something is spam, especially when it isn't, is spam in itself. So Mr Grimm, please don't spam unless it's in spa. ;)
Genevieve's post made me chuckle. In an evil way. >:D
Modding.
Quote from: Holby on June 20, 2009, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 19, 2009, 06:03:53 PM
Genevieve, please don't spam unless it's in spa.
You saying something is spam, especially when it isn't, is spam in itself. So Mr Grimm, please don't spam unless it's in spa. ;)
Genevieve's post made me chuckle. In an evil way. >:D
Modding.
Sorry. I thought it was spam since it had nothing at all to do with the topic.
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 20, 2009, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: Holby on June 20, 2009, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 19, 2009, 06:03:53 PM
Genevieve, please don't spam unless it's in spa.
You saying something is spam, especially when it isn't, is spam in itself. So Mr Grimm, please don't spam unless it's in spa. ;)
Genevieve's post made me chuckle. In an evil way. >:D
Modding.
Sorry. I thought it was spam since it had nothing at all to do with the topic.
well this has nothing to do with the topic either...
Quote from: Daryn on June 20, 2009, 12:58:40 PM
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 20, 2009, 12:22:33 PM
Quote from: Holby on June 20, 2009, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: Mr.Grimm on June 19, 2009, 06:03:53 PM
Genevieve, please don't spam unless it's in spa.
You saying something is spam, especially when it isn't, is spam in itself. So Mr Grimm, please don't spam unless it's in spa. ;)
Genevieve's post made me chuckle. In an evil way. >:D
Modding.
Sorry. I thought it was spam since it had nothing at all to do with the topic.
well this has nothing to do with the topic either...
Neither did that and neither does this!
Woot another one for my post count!
Quoteif you are going to hold 2billion networth and leave a gap for someone to take your land when you've got no city, you deserve to be killed for playing sloppy.
our clan is smart and we have numbers of citie
So does Regicide, now anyway. I take full responsibility for Ashy's death. It was sloppy to have all that net on a clanned person with no city. Not that I was expecting this level of pants-on-head retardedness from Zeppelin. I figured I was playing with rational people who would wait for the emp to be broken before engaging in the usual level of bloodthirstiness on Turbo. I hadn't counted on the irrational. By the way Sevah, did your clan have cities before Ashy was killed?
i keep 5 cities, after i max out leaders i just demo the land if some one manages to steal them.
i don't know who ashy is i don't really care to spend the time getting to know everyone, next emp round i'll take out the emp by myself.
so far i've done 4bil of damage to him, who's helping?
Sevah, all you've done so far is kill off the rats that Magnum has made for you - the emp is basically immune to leaders unless you suicide every day all set long.
Quote from: Shadow on June 21, 2009, 08:48:49 AM
Sevah, all you've done so far is kill off the rats that Magnum has made for you - the emp is basically immune to leaders unless you suicide every day all set long.
well then theres something wrong with the emp because last i checked your mtowers over here only hold 175 wizards a piece. 1m land would mean 175m leaders max unless the admin decided to be a dog and give it a ratio of idk 6000?
they did
Quotei keep 5 cities, after i max out leaders i just demo the land if some one manages to steal them.
Wasn't the question. The question was, when did you build the cities?
Quotei don't know who ashy is i don't really care to spend the time getting to know everyone, next emp round i'll take out the emp by myself.
1) A little simple deductive work should tell you that Ashy was the one from my clan who had 2 bil net and got killed. 2) I highly doubt that you will do it yourself.
Quoteso far i've done 4bil of damage to him, who's helping?
No, so far you've suicided off 4 bil NW of leaders. Given that he likely has a ridiculous ratio we'll never be able to whittle down, you've not really contributed at all, I'm sorry to say. Now if you had been suiciding him with stoats, we'd probably be able to break with far fewer stoats than it will take now.\
Quoteok then why?
So the round wouldn't be over quickly. If he only had a 100 ratio, once we got in range to suicide him a few times, we'd be able to murder the rest of the net away quite easily, steal all the money, and then break him for land. The emp would have been broken within a week.
i agree with volkov
dropping his networth by 6billion is more than you've done to him
we only need 950million networth to attempt attacks now.
our troops don't tremble so bad when we break him plus those attacks i made would have been wasted time like the other 1000s attacks the server could of made on him so far but hasn't.
i'm going to get in range and make more attacks and kill another 3billion networth so we can get in range to not even desert.
what have you done? was that you with the 44 acres of land?
Sevah, that was a bug.
Plus we got 1bil net killed off by some moron called Zeppelin earlier on-you haven't had 1bil net killed off.
sigh....this round is too bloodthirsty...
Quotedropping his networth by 6billion is more than you've done to him
Actually, we've actually broken him for land, which you haven't. Leader suicides aren't going to accomplish much as far as actually breaking him goes.
Quotewe only need 950million networth to attempt attacks now.
That's great, but you still haven't broken him.
Quote
our troops don't tremble so bad when we break him plus those attacks i made would have been wasted time like the other 1000s attacks the server could of made on him so far but hasn't.
No, they don't tremble so bad when you FAIL an attack. Perhaps if you had been suiciding him with stoats instead of leaders, we could have more accomplished here.
Quote
i'm going to get in range and make more attacks and kill another 3billion networth so we can get in range to not even desert.
And you still won't have broken the emp. Meanwhile the clock is ticking down on the round.
Quotewhat have you done? was that you with the 44 acres of land?
That was a bug, I broke him twice, should have gotten 40k acres of land, each time.
Personally, I don't see how knocking net off the emperor is a bad thing in the end it helps anyone else who is trying to break him.
Didn't say it was a bad thing, I just think there are more useful ways to knock net off the emp. Such as troop suicides.
Quote from: Gen. Volkov on June 24, 2009, 06:34:02 PM
Didn't say it was a bad thing, I just think there are more useful ways to knock net off the emp. Such as troop suicides.
there are more nw-effective ways to knock net off the emp. apparently such as wizard suicides.
Just because he's suiciding wizards doesn't mean he's breaking the emp. So far, the only group to do so has been my group. Woulda been even easier if people had been suiciding his stoats. We coulda gotten even more than 190k off the emp.
end result? I believe you owe sevs an apology.
Actually, when I broke I was taking 10% desertions anyway IIRC, it made no difference.
Quoteend result? I believe you owe sevs an apology.
Sevs did a good job breaking the emp, but 1) we got there first, and 2) as shadow said, we were still taking 10% desertions to do it. It still would have been much more useful if people had been suiciding his stoats away.
yes, you got through first, and regardless of the 10% thing, sevs still manages alot more damage than you.
So volk should apologize? Sevah, I am sure volk is truly sorry that you did more damage than he did. ^_^
Quoteyes, you got through first, and regardless of the 10% thing, sevs still manages alot more damage than you.
Coordination kinda broke down after we broke the emp. Oblit didn't run turns for the last 3 days, as far as I could tell. As far as I can tell, for the initial breaks from either us or Sevs, the 10% still applied. Sevah did go on to break for more, and I congratulate him, but I don't see where I need to apologize, because as far as I can tell, I was correct and it would have been more useful to hurt his troops. We were never going to break through his leader defenses in the first place.
Quote from: Gen. Volkov on June 29, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
Quoteyes, you got through first, and regardless of the 10% thing, sevs still manages alot more damage than you.
Coordination kinda broke down after we broke the emp. Oblit didn't run turns for the last 3 days, as far as I could tell. As far as I can tell, for the initial breaks from either us or Sevs, the 10% still applied. Sevah did go on to break for more, and I congratulate him, but I don't see where I need to apologize, because as far as I can tell, I was correct and it would have been more useful to hurt his troops. We were never going to break through his leader defenses in the first place.
Heh i didn't use turn for the last week i dont think.
It was kinda anoying to see all my work just go up in flames especially cause it was two close comrades that did it.
The first time which was by bob/zeplin i just kept on going but after the second time by snare and shadow i just gave up.
Anyways congratz on breaking the emp everyone im going solo this round so ill see you round.
Snare and Shadow? I never went after you guys did I?
No, Shadow never went after us Oblit. Shadow helped us a great deal in fact. The second time was Snare and Zep. At one point I did send all our clans stoats to Shadow, but that was because I had a cruddy ratio and he had a good one. At the time, I was being online suicided and murdered by Snare and Zep. So I sent off all my troops and proceeded to beat up on Snare until he was no longer a factor.
Oops sorry shadow i wrote the wrong name :-\
lol no worries, I thought probably you just didn't know who I was that set and guessed it was me when I came after you. Which isn't entirely unreasonable :P But no, I helped you guys that round.