So what's up with all these people deleting themselves or surrendering? I see Rum and Coke deleted, Purple Dragon deleted, Horde of all Hordes deleted, Nohc the not so amazing lost interest. I mean only having your stuff poisoned or stolen isn't that bad. Shouldn't you be staying around and fight other than run and delete? I can see Nohc have the reason to delete himself after having over 200b worth of resources either stolen or poisoned. But other people haven't got hit that much. Oh well, less enemies for me to concentrate on.
p.s: Hey, lookie, I have most offenses and defenses count in Turbo!
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p.s: Hey, lookie, I have most offenses and defenses count in Turbo!
heh. yeah, go figgure..
Horde of All Hordes was David I belive, and I think somone told him he "sucked," and he got all offended and now he's not going to play turbo anymore.. zats what he told me atleast...
This round is pathetic. I held first for a week at 250m NW, which was all I planned to do. I'm deleting now. I hope you have fun with your crooked little schemes in the future, because I probably won't be playing.
lol, held first for a week? 1k land, no mages, 36m skiffs and nothing else. Why waste my time with your empire when you just sit there doing nothing. Obviously, you're not growing and making grains. Oh, other people have surpassed your 250m net. Checked out #33. He was holding first for almost a day until other people and me broke him. So no, you weren't alone at the top for a week. Anyway, if you call people having sympathy on your empire and not hit you for your measly 1k land 0 forces except skiffs "Holding first" then wow, yeah, you held first for a few days.
all i see here are excuses made by people to convince themselves not to play, how pathetic, i mean honestly. stand up and be a man :)
Btw, it's not even a week yet. Check this out.
Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:38:22 -0700 Nohc The Amazing (#5)
Clan: Dominion Cody (#14)
Clan: Guerilla Strike
626 Acres
That was when you boosted your net after you got hit down. Today is the 20th, so it's only 5 days. Not counting the fact that #33 held first with LAND for a period of time over 24 hours ago.
Ya, David told me the same thing, I told him it was a load of big fish, but meh.
Oh, we rule.
Idiot. I /have/ been up in first for exactly one week now. I have logged in everyday in first to prevent being deleted.
Quote from: Wolf SnareIdiot. I /have/ been up in first for exactly one week now. I have logged in everyday in first to prevent being deleted.
Actually, i
was in first for almost a day just a few days ago and would have stayed had i wanted to :P . On a second note i'll have to agree with Ashaman.. the deleting/giving up is kinda lame, but i guess i could see why would with so much resource loss.
I know. I mean seriously, what is with all these people being in first for a little while and then crapping out?
I think I've been deleted for inactivity now... But all I was doing in Turbo was testing strats for Reg...
I'm not quiting anyway i've been saved any attacks from ashamn by being friendly and starting a truce.
*stretches*
Im back! =-D
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*looks around*
Whoa... my land sources are gone... =-/
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Ya bums... they may be arses but its still fun to pummel them when you have teh chance ^_^
Stick it out and show them how to fight.
Quote from: Wolf SnareIdiot. I /have/ been up in first for exactly one week now. I have logged in everyday in first to prevent being deleted.
I hope you realize that we let you be up there....had we wanted to, you woulda fallen out of first quick...but we thought, why waste time on a guy with 1k land??? :P
Ashaman ruining the game seems like a good enough reason for people to wanna quit. its no fun the way he plays.
I on the other hand haven't quit (although with my computer broken, and my dads unable to log in, seems i might be deleted from inactivity if something doesn't change). But i hate playing when its like this. and i'm not saying Ashaman is bugging me, because i could take the little punk if it were one on one, but its him and his allies, teaming up on me. takes a group of you to take me, and i'm still doing decently.
oh but i know ashaman, you could take me if you tryed hard enough... i know. :rolleyes:
Man alive Peace, Ash come here on a different code, totally new and rules the game with the help of two people, with the whole of RWL attack him and us. You goes should have grouped together and killed us, but you didn't and you can't. I could be in first at any moment I want.
You could take Ash 1v1, man on man? Lmao.........
Right........ Come play QM peace, be active join a clan then come back.
Wolf Snare: Happy Birthday ::hats:: Have a cookie!!!!!
We can remove you from you position of power at any moment.
lol, juska, i'm aware of QT's "code". i've played QT before, and even QT doesn't poison. i talked to death eater who i'm friends with. he plays QMT and he says nobody poisons, its stupid and dirty.
Ashaman is a little wussy, i could easily take him 1 on 1. because first of all, 1 on 1, i wouldn't be massing food, so what would he poison?
And i'm not gonna go play QT. I've played it before, and your no better a person for playing it yourself, nor better a player.
If it was 1 on 1 Ash wouldn't poison food neway. The only reason we poisoned here was because everyone masses food, duh! At QM there is an upkeep on food and you can't store goods on the market, no magers store food and only maybe 1 or 2 experienced vets play gremmie which is why no one poisons, besides everyone with large amount of food will have a shield. I think I'm a better player because of QM, better person? I don't know, I know I made more friends there than here though.
You've already played? Really? I see Nohc and someone else from Redwall were playing, good. They were both doing farily well last time I checked.
Challenge Ash to 1v1 next set if your so good and he's such a wuss.
there is no 1 on 1 server, otherwise i'd have challanged, and beaten many by now (isn't that right wolf bite?).
Juska, why do you think you have to explain WHY people mass food to me? do you think if you talk like i'm an idiot, i'll all of a sudden turn into one and start poisoning people? I understand why people food mass on RWL, and not QT, but i'm not gonna go play QT because of it, i still like RWL best.
Anyways, ashaman, please don't talk like i don't know what i'm saying. I've no doubt played more promisance games then you in my time. I don't wanna sound cocky (which i know i do) but its true.
I know there isn't a sole 1 on 1 server, but you can still tryo to duel on turbo, annouce it tell people to lay off and only attack each other, it's not perfect, but for the moment that's all we've got.
Quote from: Peace Alliancethere is no 1 on 1 server, otherwise i'd have challanged, and beaten many by now (isn't that right wolf bite?).
Juska, why do you think you have to explain WHY people mass food to me? do you think if you talk like i'm an idiot, i'll all of a sudden turn into one and start poisoning people? I understand why people food mass on RWL, and not QT, but i'm not gonna go play QT because of it, i still like RWL best.
Anyways, ashaman, please don't talk like i don't know what i'm saying. I've no doubt played more promisance games then you in my time. I don't wanna sound cocky (which i know i do) but its true.
Hehehehe, that would be an interesting match to watch for sure. I got me money on wolf though...
Peace would cream anyone 1v1, 'cept mebbe Wolf and a few others...
I'd love to fight watch Peace fight, and fight him, QM was brainstorming about one, it didn't really go anywhere alot of talk, it's in the Development forum if anyone wants to check it out, or course you need to request acces to the development forum and have an account.
I love it when people talk trash. Talk all you like PA. I know what I can do. I know how many sets on how many servers I've won over the years. I play promisance for fun and when people whine and curse, I relish it. I'm surprised you played many promisances before and yet, you whined like a little girl when I poisoned your stuff. All these years of playing and no one has ever poisoned or stormed you? So you know Death Eater? Maybe you can ask him about Ashaman/Coramoor and find out a bit about me before you continue with your trash talk.
Anyway, as all the vets know, wars and trash talks always liven up a forum and make the game more fun to play. Don't shy away from it Embrace it!
you be sure i've asked him about you before, i know enough from your gameplay anyways. you'd be owned.
i was pissed because you were being stupid...
let me say that again so maybe it'll sink in, i know how hard this is for you.
I was pissed because you were bing stupid...
i'm no whiner, but i sure was mad, i'll admit that. if i were a whiner i'd have deleted my account or suicided on you or something stupid like that. just so i could get pity or something.
You can beat ash 1 on 1??? oh man, i think im gonna die laughing.
So there are 2 things that i think this redwall community does not know yet and idk how many times im gonna need to say for it to sink in
1. Grains are worth a lot of networth here so that probably means youre gonna need plenty of grains to achieve a high net and win. Which also means that if i can destroy your grains, my net will be higher! I see nothing wrong with that. Its like if troops were worth the most, then everyone would standard eachother in an attempt to bring down others net and boast yours...simple as that. PA, its natural for people to say things are stupid when you get your donkey kicked.
2. You really dont know how good some people are until you go out to the big servers and see....I can take ppl's words here that PA is good. He might be one of the best here. I'll take that. but what you dont understand is that there WAY more better than you. You have only played against ash for how long??? and you think you can beat him??? Just shows how you think youre all that. but youre not. simple as that
hello! My name is Death Eater :rolleyes:
so, I see we have some bickering going on...hmmm...indeed. Well, I know both you guys fairly well (not great, but enough), so I don't want to get too involved in your cat fight, lol, but to clarify:
No one storms (poisons) on the QMT servers because its pointless (grain has been devalued huge, so no one stores food). However, in times of war, all forms of attacking are acceptable.
Ash, I'm surprised your still alive, seriously. You've been poisoning and stealing everyones stuff? I must agree, you RWLers have a right to be pissed, however, don't complain, do something about it. Why this conflict has continued is beyond me, so I don't want to get into it.
As for a better player....no comment. Different playing styles, different codes. No way to really know without it be opinionated.
Finally, why hasnt the grain been devalued here? Why???? It ruins the code so much to the point where, as PEace said, the only way to compete is to farm. B-O-R-I-N-G
I'm done
Quote from: KangXiYou can beat ash 1 on 1??? oh man, i think im gonna die laughing.
So there are 2 things that i think this redwall community does not know yet and idk how many times im gonna need to say for it to sink in
1. Grains are worth a lot of networth here so that probably means youre gonna need plenty of grains to achieve a high net and win. Which also means that if i can destroy your grains, my net will be higher! I see nothing wrong with that. Its like if troops were worth the most, then everyone would standard eachother in an attempt to bring down others net and boast yours...simple as that. PA, its natural for people to say things are stupid when you get your donkey kicked.
2. You really dont know how good some people are until you go out to the big servers and see....I can take ppl's words here that PA is good. He might be one of the best here. I'll take that. but what you dont understand is that there WAY more better than you. You have only played against ash for how long??? and you think you can beat him??? Just shows how you think youre all that. but youre not. simple as that
Wow, you're a spart guy. Well, you might sound as though you are... well, even then not really. you just went on a if you hadn't read this topic at all.
To respont to your number 2 there, i already stated that i've played many other promisance games. in fact, i made a website to reference over 20 promisance games i knew of, most of them i had played myself. And did i prove myself in all those promisance games? Well i didn't get first, but i never stayed for a whole server. i basicly got to know it, so that i could make a review of it on my website. so yeah, your point really doesn't have any validity. sorry.
and for #1, we all know that grains are worth too much... we've been over it... a LOT. you really aren't telling us anything new.
so yeah, you seem new, its good to see new people here. stick around, you might learn something.
haha, oh yeah, and how long have you been playing RWL? you seem to think i have no way of knowing if i could take ashaman 1 on 1 because i haven't seen him play for long enough. but how long have you seen me play? i mean actually /play/. i haven't played compeditivly since i faught wolf bite. so you may not know what your talkin about.
death eater, i'm not complaining. I was pissed off, send him a lot of angry messages, so thats why he assumed i was a bitter 'ol vet. and theres mot much i can do about him anyways, he's pissed off so many people in the game, they're always attacking him. taking land no less, he's always maxed. he knows better then to join a clan though, seems he didn't last long on reg when he was in one. now he's restarted and has already started poisoning me on reg, lol, good thing i have no resources eh?
heh. yeah, I'd say he's poisening again on reg..
and he's not fool enough to join a clan yet...
-.-
meh.. I'd almost be tempted to put up a 1:1 server, or several of them, based on requests.. I think State has free webhosting.. I'll look into it.. I've got Dreamweaver MX now, so I 'spose I could edit and all.. never really messed with Promi before... thinking back I'm pretty sure Beatles hosted his Duels games on his college's server.. hrm...
If Ash is that good, why isn't he Emp? Peace has proved himself in my mind. But I've seen Ash get killed, get to rank one for a coupla hours on turbo... Nothing that great.
lol, are you a noob or just trying to sound like one Razorclaw? Being killed while in a clan is a risk you take when you join a clan. All you need is people with turns to kill you. Now I'm back as clanless, so try to kill me this time. Turbo #1 rank at 250m net? Why bother pulling all my grains off storage to get to rank one when it's not the end of the set yet? Anyway, keep up the flames. I love reading them while I'm bore at work.
At the moment I'd say Peace was the better player but i havent seen Ash prove himself i have seen Peace prive himself so i am currently leaning his way in this argument.
I love how transparent you are ashaman. I also like how you keep stating the obvious, as if it makes you sound smarter. Too bad not many of the RWL'ers fall for it, eh?
Look, you seem to be here, not to win, or do well, but to play like a prick, and laugh everyone, when they get annoyed with you. Laughing as though they are so stupid to be annoyed that someone is here to ruin the game. Well, for a workin man, you sure act like a childish boy. get over yourself.
That's my point... You were killed, you never even got top 15 before you were killed. In Turbo, all you do is PO people. If you're as good as you claim, why don't you dominate?
I would have thought that obvious ^_^
he likes to hurt food massers, but doing so takes turns, so rather than building himself, he relies on his leader to take what others have.. thiefish..
I would be interrested to see what would happen in a 1:1 match up.. give each player 50k acers and see what they could do with it.. it would be no fun if they both started with the standard 150.. hee...
Im going with Peace because he has a stronger argument...
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And i like him better anyway, but thats a logical fallacy, so the validity of it is rather sketchy...
As are all the "you're stupid" "NO! YOU are!" type things...
If ur gonna flame, at least make it worthy of our intelligence to read.
Please.
No, YOU are! *five-year old argument* You're a poopy-head! Well you're a super-poopy-head! Well you're a-waaaaaaaaah! Hehe.
Suddenly i seem to have the urge to throw something at you.
*looks aboot*
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Lucky chap you are.
Haha, can't throw things over the computer! :P *gets hit by a chair, which flies out of his comp screen*
*looks aboot*
Im gonna need that back
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*hunches over screen*
HURRY UP YOU CRETI...
*falls over as the chair whacks him in the forehead*
This is FUN! *shoots hockey puck through as Neo get back up* This has dissolved into spam, disregard it, back to original topic...
Shut up Razorlcaw. Ash wasn't very high in rank before he was killed because he expermented with a few strats and sent almost all his rescources out in aid, along with participating in kill runs.
I'm first in turbo, so I'm the bestest player ever *giggles*
Ash would own Peace, the only reason you people think peace will win is because you've watched him play here at RWL and play well, Ash isn't playing to his full potential, over at QMT he placed first at least a few sets, and places top 20 all the time.
You people who had you food bought out and then stolen, or who have got poisoned can you honestly say that it didn't help Ash? The best offense is a good defence, if no one scores you don't lose. By defensively poisoning your grains Ash is winning offensively.
juska i know you thought that sounded smart but it didn't. poisoning is offensive. there for the best offense in this case is.... a good offense! back to the drawing board eh?
And if Ash is so good, bring it.
lol Peace. I know when the Swiftgaming guys came we got owned. There are a lot of great players at other proms. I just remember Juska as a bumbling newb, though, and wonder what he's talking about.
But anyway, as to previous successes, that's a bit tricky. I'm sure there have been heaps of sets of prom, many opportunities for Ashaman to prove himself, but a big player base of excellent quality.
Here, the standard is not quote the same, nor the number. BUT, Peace ranks in nearly every Turbo and has dominated in every server he plays. Until a few peeps who shall remain nameless get sick of it ;)
What I'm talking about were holby? The bestest player thing? I was making fun of Wolf Snare and all the other people who keep telling Ash he sucks because he's not in first right now.
I'm sorry, but the guys at Swiftgaming look like first-timers next to the best from QMT. Coramoor has proven himself on a superior server, however, it is the server he cosistently has played at. Peace has proven himself at the server HE consistently plays at. So really, you can't compare the two.
btw, LOWER GRAIN VALUES ::agrees::
Quote from: AshamanSo what's up with all these people deleting themselves or surrendering? I see Rum and Coke deleted, Purple Dragon deleted, Horde of all Hordes deleted, Nohc the not so amazing lost interest. I mean only having your stuff poisoned or stolen isn't that bad. Shouldn't you be staying around and fight other than run and delete? I can see Nohc have the reason to delete himself after having over 200b worth of resources either stolen or poisoned. But other people haven't got hit that much. Oh well, less enemies for me to concentrate on.
p.s: Hey, lookie, I have most offenses and defenses count in Turbo!
Um, I only read that post, but don't assume things. My comp went X_X on me. So I was without internet for at least 10 days. In which I assume you and other people must have done lots of mean things to me.
errr there were a few incidences where mean things were done to you...only if you still had your empire to see :P
Yes you were hit down alot,Plus dominion is starting to crumble.
:angry:
I've been working on my account "Rainfall" all month and now, I simply couldn't get on for a couple of days because of loads of Theatre and Band and I find that I've been killed. Yeah yeah, you'll say get over it. And I will. But I'd just like to voice my frustration because I was doing fairly well.
For a newbie anyway.
I had 60 billion cash and and networth of 70,000 or so. About 5 million stoats and I was gaining 500,000,000 per Gold Mine. 30,000 land.
Just a little annoyed, that's all.
I'm guessing return of the king is Italian Mafia. *is quite annoyed if so*
*stomps around*
Don't go clanned.
you were lucky you were killed...cause you were next in line to get your cash stolen :P
...just personally, I'd prefer to be missing some cash than to have to restart... food is another matter :P
*nods*
rainfall was doing rather well.. was.. yiss..
Yea twas a good sacking force for me.
You know what, I agree with this title. It's kind of sad when, instead of building your army back up and fighting back, the other player buckles and cries. Call me an old curmudgeon, but when someone -below- you can farm off you until their health is below 30, then you have some serious problems.
you're an old curmudgeon...
But that doesn't make my point any less valid...
the fact that most of the people they accused of quitting had other reasons might make your point invalid...
Except... my point in question wasn't on their quitting, it was on the fact that I, as soon as I got out of protection, could farm off people 30 ranks higher than me with no resistance whatsoever until my health was down below 30%. That, to me, shows a lousy player.
defense is no longer a priority. retto has programed the game so that its unnecessarily difficult to defend yourself, and easy yo be offensive. look at the ratios, 90-100% attacking, 0-10% defending... its better just to strategicly position yourself not to have defense.
lol no kidding. which promisance do you see offense at 10% success and defense at 90%??? Think about it, it will never happen. Well it could, if we doubled or tripled the defense points for each unit but what fun would that be??? youre pretty silly to think that it is retto's fault that this happens...
*shrugs*
different strats dood.. different strats...
here, there is usually atleast one horde with plenty of land, and if you can get maxxed after 21 attacks what's the real point in keeping land? share it with others and take it back when you need it.. I usually design my hordes as offencive hordes rather than defencive..
KangXi I dont think you have a great defence either...
it never used to be so durastic. back in the day it was much more evened out. we could actually defend. and there are other ways of making defense easier kang. take out that silly attack percentages thing nobody uses, give more bonus to defenders, up towers and make land worth more NW. with land worth lots of NW, people will want to have land to be in first, comprande?
I pulled off a like 77% def rate in 16 round of turbo and Death eater had in the high 80%'s, but that was only because we pwned you all that round without leaders :) and I protected DE's sorry hide the whole set.
50% is possible, if you play right.
heck, I still had a 50% defencive ratio on Nero before I killed him on reg... definatly possible, but quite a bit of trouble...
Like windhound said, why put up any defense when you have hit limits protection and you actually want to lose land so that other people can't magic attack your grains? The glory of this game is to come in first at the end, not during the set. If people want to hold first for the first week or two, then go ahead. Like Cody was doing when he had 36m skiffs, no land, no other troops and just sit there for a few days. Why do I have to bother with him when he wasn't growing and setting himself up for the end game? So what if you have 50% defense success rate or 100%. Fact is, if you can't compete for the 1st spot at the end, then you lose. Until there's some code changes that declare a victor as the person holding first the longest, then people will still work for the end game.
And as you people can see, grains hoarding isn't that hard. If you still like to hoard grains, then there will always be an Ashaman around to poison or steal your grains :)
I think we should play turbo again with leaders disabled.
i can't believe i missed the no-leaders round, i would have cleaned up hands down. thats depressing, retto only did it when i was away to spite me because i'm the one who made a stink to him about it.
ashaman, the purpose of the game is to be competing to have the highest ranking... why would everyone wanna bum around for a month just to get be in first place for 12 hours at the end? thats rediculas. if the intention is to be first, then the winner of the round should be he who stays in first the longest. that way, the person if first comes under fire, everybone races to take them down, its a constant struggle, constant battle. unlike now where the battle is merely in the last day when everyone shows their networths.
i suggested the cange to retto, and i hope he does it, because it would resourect turbo. turbo never used to be about being in first just at the end, believe it or not, we used to have emperors on turbo.
Im only speculating here...but what if....
a person holds first for more than 15 days? is the set just over then? i mean if it wasnt...no one would play anymore...
No one cares or remembers an empire that stayed in first but not win the set. Until the code is changed to reflect the time an empire was in first the longest, then people will continue to play for the glory of winning the set at the end. If people want to be in first during mid set, then I will gladly leave them alone to sit around and not use any of their turns to grow. We play by what the code allow. As of now, the code does not record informations such as who was in first longest, and so that's not how I will play. The code favors grain storing by making grains worth a lot of networth and easily storable, so that's how I will play. Until the code changes, style of play will stay the same.
Oh, and please be careful about what you wish for PA. Remember that not only you know how to play indy. Indy is a strat that's been around the longest and most people who played promisance before will no doubt know how to indy. Most new players that I taught will begin as an indy because it's the easiest way to get started in this game.
ashaman, the immortalization simply states who was in first at the end. who's to say thats the winner? the purpose is to be in first regardlyss of how the code is atm. theres nothing that says its your objective to store up all season to win at the end. however that is the popular way of playing and thats why code needs to be changed to fix that... i still don't see why its the only way you will play?
also, who cares if the guy in first isn't using any turns? as soon as he gets there half the game will be struggling to take him out of first. the code would also cound who's in 2nd the most, 3rd, 4th and so on. that way it see's who can actually stay in power from a longer amount of time.
whats indy? i don't speak QT
Industrial, I would assume. So troops.
ohhhhhh. i thought he meant indipendant, i was thrown off.
yes, indy is QMT for industrial...a no-leader strat basically...