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Discussion => Clans => Topic started by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 11:34:25 AM

Title: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 11:34:25 AM
So now that the  new round has started I will be creating a Clan once I get out of protection called: Cloud's Legion.

I will only be around for about 1/2 of this round, so I have no desire to try and win this one; I will instead focus my efforts on training people on the art of 3.0 and how to be relatively successful at it. Anyone is welcome to join as long as you're willing to listen and improve yourself.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
I will be thwarting your efforts from your first run.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 01:37:59 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 01:32:34 PM
I will be thwarting your efforts from your first run.

As if you even have the skill, but picking on a training clan shows your insecurity.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
You a little bitter there bud? I'll duel you 1vs1 if you're implying you've got half of what it takes to stay top 5.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
You a little bitter there bud? I'll duel you 1vs1 if you're implying you've got half of what it takes to stay top 5.

You're not worth my time Snare. I already wasted a turbo round dueling  Sevz and neither of us got anywhere. I'm commiting my time to actually trying to help the community unlike yourself because most people are still clearly bad at 3.0.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
I'd join if I were playing this round :/

Think you'll make any resources, guides etc. that might get posted on the forums?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Quote from: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
I'd join if I were playing this round :/

Think you'll make any resources, guides etc. that might get posted on the forums?

Possibly. There were supposed to be a bunch of changes this round, so I need to see how they've affected things.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Ok cool :)

Look forward to reading them if you manage to do them!
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 02:50:06 PM
Before I went on vacation I skyrocketed past you Nick. You can be pretentious and boast about your big bad strategy you've developed but don't pretend you're some saint, bc you're not by any means. cut the benevolent bullcrap, you're the most self absorbed person I know, don't act as if you're capable of simply helping others without personally benefiting from it.

Also, you pretend as if you didn't ride sevz coattails to discover the basics of your strat, but I know otherwise. You worked alongside us until we taught you everything you needed to know, gave you everything you needed, and then you back stabbed us, much the same as you have everyone in your life. you're as translucent as the man of war that stung my girlfriend last week, but unlike that jellyfish you're not misunderstood or beautiful, you're jaded and selfish and I see right through you.

Truth is I refined your basic strategy and am making gains of 20 - 25% more networth than your strategy per run.combined with the chaoses I will inflict, I ensure you a painful "half"set. Ofc everyone's under the impression that you're some prodigy or deity at 3.0, but that's mostly because you claimed vigilante and professed your hatred for sevah and I. Way to hop on that bandwagon, but let me assure you that you're only the best by default. No one will admit otherwise, it'd irreparably break their little ego trip. Good luck and good riddance.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Firetooth on February 29, 2012, 02:53:31 PM
Oh give over Snare, you're just a minion. Nobody values your opinion, so why keep cramming it in our faces?

Unlike you and your code-abusing buddies, Cloud is actually teaching people, instead of taking advantage of their ignorance. As a former mod, I'd expect more integrity from you, and for you to be teaching, not helping the player who is trying to break 3.0.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 02:55:16 PM
Was there really any need to bring personal insults into this Wolf Snare? Whenever someone seems to disagree / argue with you, you always seem to bring up the same (almost pre-prepared) insults up to try and avert attention from your being owned in a debate?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
That's rather amusing Snare. I was self-taught last round and actually got more new info from Shadow than I did Sevz. Also, the only reason you were "outproducing" me is because I had to burn 120 turns every run building/demoing camps to buy my own troops, and then building towers to stave off the dozens of vultures trying to get at my resources.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
You know the truth cloud.

sharpy, I just figured I'd hit cloud where it hurts because these things are true. I know him better than most of you. I am still taking on teachers, im just doing so privately because im not a brown noser like cloud.

code abuse, yada yada, minion, blah blah. I win?

Go ahead and debate whatever you want, I'll respond in kind. In this instance clown needed to be brought down a peg, and I know this will hurt him because I know he's a lonely soul who infact has only ever used anyone, the above mentioned scenario is just another instance.

So, what would you like to discuss sharpy? politics? the global economy? religion?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:05:44 PM
You sound butthurt because I don't want to use you anymore Snare.

I never claimed to be the good guy, or that I don't use people. Everyone has their uses and it's a waste not to exploit them, but you just can't grasp the idea that I might actually want to help people for their benefit and not my own.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Firetooth on February 29, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
Yes Snare, you truly are a god amongst men. Sorry for doubting you. Take all my internet rats, I'll send them all to you if you promise not to attack me and show me up...

You really don't seem to know how ridiculous you look. Sad, kind of. Mostly funny...
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Quote from: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:05:44 PM
You sound butthurt because I don't want to use you anymore Snare.

I never claimed to be the good guy, or that I don't use people. Everyone has their uses and it's a waste not to exploit them, but you just can't grasp the idea that I might actually want to help people for their benefit and not my own.

lol given everything I've known about you for the past 5 years and everything you've confided in me, how can I even consider that a possibility? ;)

Quote from: Firetooth on February 29, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
Yes Snare, you truly are a god amongst men. Sorry for doubting you. Take all my internet rats, I'll send them all to you if you promise not to attack me and show me up...

You really don't seem to know how ridiculous you look. Sad, kind of. Mostly funny...

already have, mate.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
So, what would you like to discuss sharpy? politics? the global economy? religion?

. . . I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at here, some kind of insult that I don't understand?

Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
lol given everything I've known about you for the past 5 years and everything you've confided in me, how can I even consider that a possibility? ;)

You're starting to sound like Josh, only he still trusts me.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:20:11 PM
Quote from: Sharptooh on February 29, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
So, what would you like to discuss sharpy? politics? the global economy? religion?

. . . I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at here, some kind of insult that I don't understand?



No insult at all. You said I'm afraid to debate and I instead produce personal attacks to, and I quote,
Quotetry and avert attention from your being owned in a debate
, Well let me assure you that while this was not an isolated incident, it's personal and it's between Nick & I. If you want to debate, name your topic and state your argument.

Quote from: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:13:21 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
lol given everything I've known about you for the past 5 years and everything you've confided in me, how can I even consider that a possibility? ;)

You're starting to sound like Josh, only he still trusts me.
You're the one that wrote me mean messages ingame and hurt mah feelins'.  Seriously though, why should I trust you? You made your decision to make an enemy out of me.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
You wanted to be the tough bad guy, I just helped your visualization come to life.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Rakefur on February 29, 2012, 03:24:29 PM
Hey I might join, I still suck at internet waesels. (gotta be different)
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Shadow on February 29, 2012, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: Rakefur on February 29, 2012, 03:24:29 PM
Hey I might join, I still suck at internet weasels. (gotta be different)
it's "waesels"
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:30:20 PM
Your defense mechanisms are prominent, what else is that class teaching you? Projecting your faults onto me is hardly justifiable in the long run, even within yourself. You suddenly had a stick up your butt near the end of the round because I kept breaking your lock, even after I strove for a loose alliance with you. Truth is this game ain't big enough for the both of us. And by that, yes, I mean our egos. I suspect you may further project your weaknesses onto me, but on the other hand you've admitted to being a narrsisist with a superiority complex.... so maybe you will just compromise and admit you were infact the bad guy in said scenerio, which led to our divorce.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:36:12 PM
Good and bad is all a matter of perspective, and according to the rest of the server you were the bad guys. I simply did what I had to in order to make the round interesting; total domination for an entire round is absolutely boring and breaks the spirits of those who have no chance.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
So, allowing you to lock would have been for the better of the game? Are you being intentionally thick, or do you actually not realize that no matter how good or terrible we do ingame, they will always envy us?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 03:38:24 PM
So, allowing you to lock would have been for the better of the game? Are you being intentionally thick, or do you actually not realize that no matter how good or terrible we do ingame, they will always envy us?

If you didn't notice, there was way more land floating around when I was supposedly attempting to lock. I was more/less simply trying to minimize my losses, discourage sacks/pillages, and keep enough land to maximize turns for the next run.

I dont see people envying me to be entirely relevant.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
we = sevz & I
envy / hate
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
we = sevz & I
envy / hate


I dislike Sevz because he has serious mental issues. I dislike you because you follow him blindly.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
So you think. I told you what was really up and you copy pasted me like a little girl in 5th grade. Doesn't mean I'm a minion by any means.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
So you think. I told you what was really up and you copy pasted me like a little girl in 5th grade. Doesn't mean I'm a minion by any means.

You don't actually think I ever believe anything you tell me?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 06:07:44 PM
Awfully presumptuous of you Nick. Once again you're acting out of paranoia because of your track record and guilty conscience irl. Not everyone is out to get you.
But whatever, It's your prerogative, and I guess I've been loyal to you thus far in vain. Apparently I should have been on my guard, suspecting and anticipating the moment you'd turn your back on me too, but I don't even care if you're going to insinuate all this crap. For what it's worth, I never intended to make an enemy out of you, you're one of the few people here I can stand, and I've voiced that several times.

Now you insist I'm manipulative and misleading, and infer that I'm this big jerk off that's out to get you and ruin this online community? Lighten up, I didn't do anything  (to my knowledge) that would incite this hatred, other than pair up with sevah and defy you ingame. Infact I've been very hospitable in most respects to our friendship understanding, as were you; might have even ventured to call you a former e buddy... Now you perpetuate this misunderstanding by erecting a wall, but I guess it's your premise and there's nothing I can do about that.

We've only ever butted heads because as humans we see our faults in one another, and you and I are both innately pompous by nature.

For what it's worth, I forgive you and I'm going to continue doing my thing.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 07:37:28 PM
Hah, you said "erect"
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on February 29, 2012, 11:55:23 PM
Clan's up now BTW.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Neobaron on March 01, 2012, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: cloud on February 29, 2012, 07:37:28 PM
Hah, you said "erect"

The best post ever made in this subforum.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Rakefur on March 01, 2012, 09:38:12 AM
*clears throat* *whistles*

What were we talking about again?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Neobaron on March 01, 2012, 10:15:58 AM
I don't know, but Snare should make a clan and call it the "axis of awful" and do a thing in the game.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Holby on March 02, 2012, 12:56:17 AM
Wolf Snare,

Almost every post you've made in this thread is a personal attack against Cloud. He's refrained from attacking you in kind. Yet you've continued to badger and abuse long after you could have left the thread. It's simply not good enough.

This is an official warning.

Holby, modding

Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 05, 2012, 10:56:43 PM
oh noes!
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sevah on March 11, 2012, 12:23:28 AM
Quote from: cloud on February 29, 2012, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on February 29, 2012, 04:34:49 PM
we = sevz & I
envy / hate


I dislike Sevz because he has serious mental issues. I dislike you because you follow him blindly.

Hey Holby, how about you shut up and take note on this. He's saying i've got mental issues when he's never met me. I'd dare him to say it to my face.
Accountable to defend my nature.
I'm actually a healthy bloke, I can backflip and do expert sudoku puzzles, I got a beautiful daughter and a great life. I agree with freedom of speech and admit to a lacking communication skills on a computer but this is bellow the belt harassment.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on March 11, 2012, 01:10:31 AM
Quote from: Sevah on March 11, 2012, 12:23:28 AM

Hey Holby, how about you shut up and take note on this. He's saying i've got mental issues when he's never met me. I'd dare him to say it to my face.
Accountable to defend my nature.
I'm actually a healthy bloke, I can backflip and do expert sudoku puzzles, I got a beautiful daughter and a great life. I agree with freedom of speech and admit to a lacking communication skills on a computer but this is bellow the belt harassment.

I would say that to you in real life as you would probably cower in fear if we ever actually met. The conversations we've had online disturb me that you would even possess the thought process that you do. I feel sorry for your family and the problems that you will bring them later in life.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Neobaron on March 11, 2012, 03:15:25 AM
This thread is bad and you guys should feel bad.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Gen. Volkov on March 11, 2012, 05:00:52 AM
QuoteThis thread is bad and you guys should feel bad.

This. A thousand times this.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Shadow on March 11, 2012, 08:11:01 AM
Going to just lock it if it continues to be this bad.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sevah on March 11, 2012, 08:51:28 AM
I've been a martial artist in different styles for at least 19 years, I respect nature more than man.
The formula for all organisms is fixed and subject to their environment. Mankind is desperate to find out where we came from what we are so bad they step on natures balance ruthlessly, ignorantly and half die without purpose.

You are a subject to your environment on autopilot thought patterns. Blindly following a herd of servants for the boss to rule the world.
I'm an open minded thinker that jus needs to learn telepathy and get man to do good by eachother and end the greed.

Talk all you want. I bashed you last round, bashed you this round and will bash you next round. Bring your whole crew when you come at me. Half of them won't tag along knowing you lose every time.

And if you trash me on the forums again i'll bring mayhem to clouds legion

moderator's note: please use the edit function instead of double posting
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: cloud on March 11, 2012, 01:30:56 PM
Something I've learned in life is that most martial artists are terrible when it comes to real fighting.

As far as being on autopilot I am far from it and go against the norm more often than not. I try to provoke intellectual thoughts and ideas with the people that I interact with on a daily basis; you try to manipulate them and twist their thoughts into what suits you best.

You're obviously not even that good at RWL Sevah. You felt threatened by me and the only way to beat me was to kill me, but you have proven before that killing doesn't even mean anything in turbo because it only takes 2 runs to completely recover. So either you're a huge hypocrit or are blinded by your ignorance.

I could easily come back and crush you, but I have way more important real life issues to deal with right now and stated before the round even started that I wouldn't be here for the entire round.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Sevah on March 12, 2012, 05:20:25 AM
Don't massage your own ego at my expense. Most martial artists are not like me.
As a child I knew that having a blackbelt in any discipline is not a good thing both legally and mentally. Blackbelts are people who have mastered a style of fighting that doesn't change where as I'm a self employed capable thinking militant ashamed of dumbed down people like you.

All blackbelts have a typical habit/style that a person like me uses against them very effectively. Almost every fight I had in the ring proved that no one has a perfect system except for those without solid belief in what they're truly capable of. Don't mistake me for some punch drunk fool. As a boxer I felt restricted, as a kickboxer and muay thai fighter I felt limited. When I jumped into freestyle ringfights I noticed how advanced I am. Hard to explain on a screen but in brief idiots make the same mistakes twice.

My brain creates problems and solves them. Your brain will see a problem and ignore it. If you ever call me ignorant then the joke is on you. If I cared about your history or future I would of killed you daily from the start of the round as a testament to your incompetence. If I cared about you personally I would of let you do your thing and held the strings to your capacity based on your own expectations then limit you all to dismal abilities.

You think achievable whilst I think infallible.
Talk it up dead man. How many battles do I gotta win before you open your eyes to how I actually do it and put up a fair fight?
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Gen. Volkov on March 12, 2012, 06:07:49 AM
Shadow, lock this thread. This is pathetic.
Title: Re: Cloud's Legion
Post by: Shadow on March 12, 2012, 06:38:45 AM
Was really hoping that it would improve since the original point was a good one. However...