Redwall: Warlords

Discussion => Reg Discussion => Topic started by: Gen. Volkov on January 10, 2005, 01:37:10 PM

Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 10, 2005, 01:37:10 PM
 Didn't you say something a bit a ago about not scraping up land anymore? Well thanks for land starving the rest of the fricking game jerk. How am I supposed to make cash with you sitting up there soaking up all the land and me incurring 6 and 7 percent losses when I try to attack? Gah. Annoying that is. And now you'l retal and leave me with even less land. All I have to say is, you better only be up there for ten days, otherwise someone will be getting some online attacks.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 10, 2005, 03:32:28 PM
 Whoa, chill... If nobody bothers to take it, he'll keep it. I have a last resort strategy if I start incurring major losses... But I'll wait.  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Orcrist on January 10, 2005, 06:14:25 PM
 I think he's built many guards, but I'm not sure. I think he'll hold first for a while though, until he gets bored and drops his net to participate in some wars...
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: wolf bite on January 10, 2005, 07:07:29 PM
 * Changed topic name *

Wolf Bite
(Adin Duties)
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Juska on January 10, 2005, 08:00:59 PM
 Stop your whining and take him down, he's out to win.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Wolf Snare on January 10, 2005, 08:02:00 PM
 Heh..

I'll see if I can help take him down if he tries anything.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Death Eater on January 10, 2005, 09:52:02 PM
 Geez...I would do the same thing. The goal is to win, not make everyone happy and land fat.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Holby on January 10, 2005, 11:03:42 PM
 I don't get it Volkov. Aren't you trying to succeed? So why shouldn't Peace be allowed to? If anything, I would congratulate him on a fine job so far, holding land is virtually impossible. How the elk is he a jerk!?
Bloody awesome job Peace :D
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 10, 2005, 11:12:31 PM
 now now guys, i highly doubt he was being entirely serious by calling me a jerk. He knows the objective in the game.

Two things though; one, i told you i would stop scraping, and that i would stop being a land farm because nobody else is even putting up an effort to scrape, and i did. By staying low, savin some cash, then taking the land and defending it so that i'm no longer a land farm. Two, the idea of being an emperor for 10 days escapes me. The objective of the game, is as follows:
Quoteyour goal is to become the ruler of all other Warlords
That is my goal, and there is no 10 day limit.

Also, although i reolise i'm not unbreakable, i would like to point out that i got up here without help. Unlike the past forunners of the round (holby, wolf, ereptor) i've done what they did without supporters. Except, of course, for juska who has been scraping for me, but that was never pre-arranged, he just happens to take his runs before i do :-D

anyways, I'm up here to be taken down, i have the land, i have the power, i am, at the moment, the ruler of all other warlords. There is no peace, there are no ponys, there is just Peace Alliance, and his awesomeness. His might, stretches across the lands, His head, ... stretches across the lands!!
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Ereptor on January 11, 2005, 12:26:53 AM
Quote from: Peace AllianceAlso, although i reolise i'm not unbreakable, i would like to point out that i got up here without help. Unlike the past forunners of the round (holby, wolf, ereptor) i've done what they did without supporters. Except, of course, for juska who has been scraping for me, but that was never pre-arranged, he just happens to take his runs before i do :-D
Actually my first time as emperor i got up by myself without any help.  Afterwords people wanted to help me or kill me, thats about how it went.  But none the less i made it on my own.  It is better that way.  Cause no one knows your plans except you, therefor, spies are useless.  heh heh
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 11, 2005, 02:38:27 AM
 theres really not much planning to it though. duck down for one run to make some cash, then the next run take some land and spend your cash on troops... and if people know your doin it, then how are they gonna stop you?

doin it on your own isn't essentially better, people who have the ability to work well with others, should do it. i however don't seem to have that ability :\
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Wolf Snare on January 11, 2005, 04:05:00 AM
 I did the same when I was emperor... Nothing is really planned; I made a regular run and whooped up 30 bil.. I got antsy from talk of war and spent it. After a while of being on top I decided to ensure my position and D E helped me.

Course Holby came with a ratio I don't even want to know.. ( I had 175 per hut and he ripped right through me)

But yes, unless you're planning an emperorship like Holby and Wolf did ( very closely playing together) than you really don't have to plan much.

And yeah, you're doing nicely peace. I never seem to work with people either.. I like to, but there never really are any opertunities.

EDIT:Posts: 999 ^_^ almost there~
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Juska on January 11, 2005, 07:55:50 AM
 Just make sure you keep your net high enough that if I attack I lose troops PA, or you won't have that land for long.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 11, 2005, 01:28:55 PM
 Heh. As usual only Peace gets my sense of humor. Irrittated I am that I can't break him with all that juicy land, but actually upset? No. But just you wait till my next few runs. I'll break him yet. Heh. But it was fun to get you guys all riled up at me.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Orcrist on January 11, 2005, 02:43:15 PM
 Well- I broke peace, and his land was finally divided up-- unfortunately I didn't exactly set myself up to hold the land, so I will lose it very soon I'm sure. I could have continued a run on  Peace beyond what I did, but the troop losses began to not be worth the land gain. Anyway, just one thing- if you want to try and take my land, fine- I'm sure someone will break me within the next day, but don't expect me not to retal if you have enough land worth taking. So don't get angry at me for retaling at you if you start the cascade of attacks that takes me from 45k land down to 15k...
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: windhound on January 11, 2005, 02:58:59 PM
 wow
nice defence Orcrist..  took every scrap of skiffs I had to get in one attack..  quite litterally..  give or take 50,000
unfortunatly I screwed up a bit, so I'll just be happy with my two attacks that got through ^_^

an' also congrats on breaking Peace, probably took a few stoats..  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 11, 2005, 05:40:56 PM
 Indeedeth. Good job Orcrist. Course the day AFTER I complain about this Wolf Snare and Menatus go and scrape up all the beautiful land for me. LOL. And OF COURSE, my turns hav only half regenerated. But meh. It's nice to have leaders again. So thanks guys!
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 11, 2005, 08:42:30 PM
 And thank you, Volkov. I'm no longer minus in food OR leaders. And I've made it back into the top ten barely after I mader the transfer from Wildcat to Marten, which hurt me muchly.  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 11, 2005, 10:54:54 PM
 LOL, Your very welcome. :P Why were you transferring in the first place I must ask.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 12, 2005, 12:28:18 AM
Quote from: OrcristWell- I broke peace, and his land was finally divided up-- unfortunately I didn't exactly set myself up to hold the land, so I will lose it very soon I'm sure. I could have continued a run on  Peace beyond what I did, but the troop losses began to not be worth the land gain. Anyway, just one thing- if you want to try and take my land, fine- I'm sure someone will break me within the next day, but don't expect me not to retal if you have enough land worth taking. So don't get angry at me for retaling at you if you start the cascade of attacks that takes me from 45k land down to 15k...
in other words you leached off me, gaining 40K land which is less then what i had, then didn't put up a good defense so the land will soon be devided and people will be complaining once again about the sparce land on regular... congrats.

and no, i'm not bitter because i was broken. i was UP there to be broken, a challange that was met, good work.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 12, 2005, 12:46:14 AM
 I never complained about sparse land. There is always enough for me. And as to you being broken, I'm just sad I didn't get to do it. I would have taken 55k land. Mostly to fort up with, but also to keep the land concentration.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Wolf Snare on January 12, 2005, 09:16:41 AM
 haha. dang.. I was ready to take him down.. oh well
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 12, 2005, 10:56:09 AM
 No, now I see the average is more around 11K-13K land, as opposed to the previous average of 8-9K.  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 12, 2005, 11:15:14 AM
 Exactly the point Razorclaw. The land is spread out.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Orcrist on January 12, 2005, 05:56:28 PM
 Peace- the entire point of me to get land is not to hold it- it's to increase my leader #. Realistically, the point of my attacks on you was to take your land, so I was only prepared for an attack, not for the defense that followed. I can see you're mad that the land will be divided because I am breakable, but that's only because that means you have to attack many people to scrape the land back together. I'm sorry that I caused you any inconvenience, but you were the only viable source of land. Maybe you haven't realized, but every time I make a land run, I'm attacked down to a certain amount of land, but as I make a run, each time, that amount of land left is higher. I suspect I'll be knocked down to 25k land, but I think that, by then, it won't be worth the attacks on me, or I'll be maxed. By the way, people will complain less about sparse land in regular if I'm broken, because with the land more spread out, there will be more to go around.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 12, 2005, 06:15:58 PM
 no orcist, you are wrong.

with the land spread out, it means that someone can't go on, see someone with a lot of land, take it and use it for their run. instead the go on, look around, see nobody with any large amount of land, so they don't know what to do, so they complain.

land, when spread out, is FAR less productive then when its bunched up. for more reasons the the one cited here. you taking my land and letting everyone leach off you, has provoked spreading. the only reason people weren't complaining before that, was because i was being a land farm. then i told everyone that i would stop because i'm not someone people can leach off of, and i put up defenses.

also, if it were me with that land and no defenses, i would be hit down to 11-13K land... i donno if that'll happen to you, but we'll see.
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 12, 2005, 06:31:23 PM
 Rank           Warlord                    Land   Networth     Clans     Race     Locations
1    ?    Peace Alliance (#21)    23,679    $153,992,499    None    Marten    Southsward
2    ?    Alive and Amplified (#17)    40,315    $110,588,553    Wra?h    Marten    Southsward
3    ?    Death Eater (#88)    19,822    $100,318,357    w00f    Marten    Southsward
4    ?    Windhounds (#6)    18,418    $55,259,842    BA?    Fox    Northlands
5    ?    wolf bite (#5)    12,983    $39,367,145    None    Stoat    Mossflower Country
6    ?    Golden Slumbers (#31)    2,480    $39,131,062    None    Wolf    Southsward
7    ?    Wolf Snare (#129)    14,415    $38,207,789    None    Marten    Southsward
8    ?    Juskabally (#49)    12,143    $37,373,764    w00f    Rat    Northlands
*9    ?    Calvinators (#41)    22,456    $36,569,628    BA?    Marten    Southsward
10    ?    Imperial Army (#23)    8,535    $34,889,573    Wra?h    Marten    Southsward
People compain when one person has the land and they have 8K. They don't when everyone has 15K. ANd it;s easy to simply attack a bunch of people. Who's complaining now? Not me (notice bold).
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 13, 2005, 12:04:34 AM
 ... was there a point there?
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 13, 2005, 08:08:58 AM
 That he had 40K in-game. And that the land is benefitting the game.  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Peace Alliance on January 13, 2005, 10:12:16 AM
 how so?
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: RazorClaw on January 13, 2005, 10:58:47 AM
 2 people in the top ten have less than 10K. Before your land was taken, having over 10K land was a pretty big amount. A few people have 20-40K, too, which would have been massively exorbitant before your land was taken. Nobody's complaining. People can make runs.  
Title: Bad Peace Alliance, Bad
Post by: Gen. Volkov on January 13, 2005, 07:26:11 PM
 I had a comment on this. I've lost it. Have you seen it? Something about bunched land is better. Too many things going on! AHH!