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Ok, so sharp says he regrets playing this round, I almost quit, and at least one other person (which you know) almost quit. All of this because of how whiny and accusative and unpleasant you've been this round. When are you gonna change, man? We're not expecting you to bend a knee to us or anything, just scale back the cheating accusations. When an active administrator of a community is accusing multiple (all of woof, but mostly me and sharp) of cheating, then there are problems.

I get that things have been tough, but you and I both know I've done nowt wrong before this. Juska? The deal was, and still is, TEN leader missions a day; I did THREE steals. He broke that deal and whined, and I PERSONALLY reimbursed him. As for WB? He cried because some leaders - that were 100% gonna die (I had an espy) anyway - got captured. Boohoo 😂😂😂. Like fair enough if this a problem, but don't try and claim I've been a problem child all around

Ps soz for all-caps, on my phone and can't bold/italic

Reg is a different situation, it was us against the server, and I've always appreciated you as a clanmate there. I guess I just didn't realize your bloodlust there would translate to the different game environment of RTR, where we couldn't dominate like in reg due the aid limits, so alliances and diplomacy were the order of the day. You're a loose cannon dude, and loose cannons are just not agreeable with clan play in this round.

Not just a clanmate. Put agency together myself, and chose to emp you for the banterous messages, rather than emp myself - and for all my achievements, I've never been emp. I know it's not a proper lock-down emp, but it was still me giving for the sake of the team. I feel bad for messing woof up man, but I can't believe you'd just chuck me like this. We were in the first team to beat Sevz in 3.0! You and me, together, fighting the good fight. Now you chuck me, before even hearing my side of the story, appease WB - who accuses everyone outside Honour of cheating - and start putting me down on the forums. I could easy be first if I'd just been marketing food net all round, but I've given so much to this clan. Like, I was the one who got you, me and shads together to agree we needed Woof! Thought we were friends, man, but clearly you feel free to just chuck me under the bus when the going gets hard...I would never do that to you or Shadow.

Feel bad if I caused woof problems, but I took an opportunity, got burnt, but would do it again. WB needs to be held to account.

Oh, so ... this post has been rather quite. Meanwhile I see Firetooth just got a heap load of aid.

Should there not be a lot of outrage?


Wolf Bite

@Volkov, can you please comment on this conspiracist nonsense? I know you're a snake and apparently think I'm awful and whatever - even after I've helped you to dominate reg for literally years at this stage and put the clan together this round!!! - but surely you can back me up in this, at least? Let's both agree WB is throwing around incorrect accusations.
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18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 348 Acres of Land and destroyed:
33,127 Stoats
77,674 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
148,886 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 111 Acres of Land and destroyed:
13,573 Stoats
5,106 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
166,995 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 193 Acres of Land and destroyed:
43,449 Stoats
39,845 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
13,626 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 613 Acres of Land and destroyed:
44,371 Stoats
68,757 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
153,986 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 272 Acres of Land and destroyed:
61,794 Stoats
56,258 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
154,380 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 566 Acres of Land and destroyed:
81,219 Stoats
18,949 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
26,826 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 324 Acres of Land and destroyed:
13,151 Stoats
64,410 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
108,080 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 729 Acres of Land and destroyed:
92,340 Stoats
47,633 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
94,948 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 200 Acres of Land and destroyed:
99,110 Stoats
29,581 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
102,666 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 309 Acres of Land and destroyed:
93,904 Stoats
81,270 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
161,575 Stoats
18 hours ago    Ereptor (#30) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 680 Acres of Land and destroyed:
102,744 Stoats
35,019 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
168,720 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 11 Acres of Land and destroyed:
61,985 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
73,060 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 184 Acres of Land and destroyed:
44,357 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
244,531 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 683 Acres of Land and destroyed:
51,743 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
90,793 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 301 Acres of Land and destroyed:
31,599 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
283,314 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 465 Acres of Land and destroyed:
45,162 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
118,966 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1010 Acres of Land and destroyed:
12,855 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
68,126 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 730 Acres of Land and destroyed:
153,231 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
100,607 Stoats
1 days, 8.4 hours ago    iPhone 7 (#44) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1055 Acres of Land and destroyed:
7,321 Stoats
You managed to destroy:
87,386 Stoats
1 days, 19.8 hours ago    You find Manus (#35) attempting to view your army!
1 days, 21.5 hours ago    The Hounds of Ulster (#13) removed you from The Dog Clan.
2 days, 1.8 hours ago    You sold 100,000,000 Food on the market for $1,900,000,000
2 days, 1.8 hours ago    You sold 100,000,000 Food on the market for $1,900,000,000
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 665 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,539 Weasels
87,560 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
6,853 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 223 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,192 Weasels
9,049 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
36,394 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 106 Acres of Land and destroyed:
384 Weasels
68,118 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
40,149 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 826 Acres of Land and destroyed:
2,079 Weasels
79,071 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
46,088 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Your forces came to the aid of Apollo (#42) in defense from Uiblis (#12)!
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 103 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,261 Weasels
58,243 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
16,844 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 969 Acres of Land and destroyed:
2,118 Weasels
59,244 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
14,495 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 596 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,662 Weasels
34,476 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
19,607 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1081 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,200 Weasels
56,480 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
12,999 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 375 Acres of Land and destroyed:
1,814 Weasels
50,467 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
32,351 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1253 Acres of Land and destroyed:
5,256 Weasels
33,745 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
1,262 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1492 Acres of Land and destroyed:
32 Weasels
42,257 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
40,650 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1668 Acres of Land and destroyed:
594 Weasels
28,018 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
55,879 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1564 Acres of Land and destroyed:
3,806 Weasels
46,265 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
43,053 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 1816 Acres of Land and destroyed:
4,764 Weasels
54,040 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
16,473 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 196 Acres of Land and destroyed:
4,874 Weasels
62,886 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
58,955 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 645 Acres of Land and destroyed:
3,152 Weasels
82,557 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
34,711 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 592 Acres of Land and destroyed:
10,936 Weasels
33,739 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
60,036 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    Your enemy captured 252 Acres of Land and destroyed:
2,380 Weasels
66,352 Leaders
You managed to destroy:
8,458 Weasels
2 days, 5 hours ago    Uiblis (#12) attacked you!    You held your defense and your enemy was repelled, but you lost:
67,312 Rats
You managed to destroy:
111,884 Rats
2 days, 5.1 hours ago    You find Uiblis (#12) attempting to view your army!

^snake.

You tend to forget that I can see the IPs of those that post. After 14 years both accounts still sometimes log in under the same IP.

There are also 8 other accounts attributed to your IP (none currently in game) which also are flagged as a possible multi by the computer.

I have suspect for any "bro" account or anytime an IP is used on more than one account, as probably does all the admins and every player. A true statement.

So you're using your admin powers to try and discredit people you are actively playing against?

Sharp defo does not have the same IP as me; he recently moved out of home. Furthermore, even if he was still at home, I'm at uni. So that's a completely irrelevant point to raise, in suggesting that we're multis because of the recent takedown.

Furthermore, I have a bunch of nonsense forum accounts, eg. Dirty Harry and Blobfish. Pretty sure my sister has an account, too, though she isn't playing...brb getting my "sister" so I can get another account to cheat poor, abused WB with.

These are historic issues, sorted out so, so long ago. It is completely beneath you to bring it up now, and shows how desperate you are to appear as the victim-cum-hero. Even now, there is no apology or contrition. To quote the ending of a/every Trump tweet: sad!

WB is such a bloody lawyer - he doesn't need anyone to jump to his defence. I used to respect him a lot, and was actually very cooperative when he first complained about being captured, but I've really lost respect for him due to his conduct this round - it's entirely unbecoming of an admin to victimise their playerbase in this way. But let's look at what he actually said:

Firetooth and his "Bro" (who I have always suspected is a multi-account because what brothers still live in the same basement after 14 years)

First off, the basement personal attack is entirely unbecoming of an admin (or anybody who is not 12). Seconly, any intelligent person would make the inference here that he's accusing me of cheating. If it was a new player, fair enough, I could appreciate that. But WB knows we aren't multiple accounts - as he alludes to here:

The words "I have always suspected is a multi-account" is a true statement. After all, when I left 5 years ago no one could verify you were two people and the Admins debated the issue at the time. If at some time later they verified, then fine. But to be accused, would be someone stating something as a FACT, not suspecting.

So a) he says these discussions went on FIVE YEARS ago! Why is he dregging this up? Clearly, the admins verified that sharp is not a multi. Are the admins incompetent? b) he says that the Admins debated the issue...that's fine. But why make it public? Any impartial and fair admin would not publicly attack and accuse a member of a community if there was such an issue. Rather, they would discreetly approach the individual and then talk with them, and the supposed multi, with the admins, behind closed doors; this kind of rumour and hearsay sticks long after it has been disproven.

As we have seen here, WB would rather fan accusations and distrust towards a long-term member of the community. He make no apology, rather twists his and my words to somehow try and absolve himself from blame. He finds way to distance himself from the responsibility that comes with an admin, whilst simultaneously trying to bend his words - deliberately oblique in structure, but not in meaning - so that they somehow do not say what any person of reasonable intelligence would assume they mean.

As for the whole "it was not admin duties" erm no. If I went out and bottled somebody tonight, I would, besides getting arrested, almost certainly get fired from my job. Saying "it wasn't on SU bar staff duties!" would not absolve me that. Buck up, and own your actions and words, and accept that you are a representative of the face of this sight, even when not officially acting in an administrative capacity.

But seriously. I'm not forgiving or forgetting this in a hurry. It is completely, 100% out of line for WB to behave like this. I actually very, very nearly stopped playing this round earlier, because I feel there is a certain amount of toxicity, but Volk persuaded me to stay. Me and at least one other (who I will not name) have very nearly quit, directly because of WB levying these kind of accusations. But he will not admit, and he will not learn, and he will keep doing the same thing over, and over, and over, whilst trying to portray himself as the hero and victim. He'll use his authority as admin to validate his position, whilst refusing to take on the responsibilities that come with that.

Finally:

I think the take away here is that no matter what I do or say, Firetooth will try to find ways to justify his actions.

Said without even a hint of irony.

I wouldn't care if WB literally just said yeah, I messed up, shouldn't have said that, let's move on. However, that's not his style, and until I receive an apology, I'm not going to forget this.

I've literally done nothing.

Also, an admin publicly promoting this conspiracy about me and sharp? I'm not forgetting that - it's entirely inappropriate.

Nobody sent me aid. Have you actually gone senile, or is this just in character?

See, accusing me of multi play is exactly why you needed to be taken down a peg. You've become sanctimonious and unable to accept your own middling ability, so just cry cheat every time you lose...and you lose a lot.

Unhappy that woof kicked me but hey, I get that they had their reasons. I'm sure I'll get over it soon enough, and now honour are weaker heading forwards. I'll cut my losses here.

Also, takedowns are easy in theory but tough in practice, simply due to the limited time most (not WB) of us seem to have to play this game. Sharp had a lunch break at work, and I managed to catch him for the last 45minutes of that...id wanted to do this earlier.

I AM the Woof executive board!

Firetooth paced back and forth in his tent, a wild gleam in his eyes. It had been weeks since the announcement of the Badger Lord's arrival, yet there was still no sign of him. Empty goblets were strewn across Firetooth's chambers, and his belongings were flung across the floor.

"Wolf Bite!" Firetooth snarled, kicking a bundle of scrolls across that floor. "That cowardly old bone-bag is still out there! Convenient how this Long Patrol conspiracy came right before we were about to finish him..." Firetooth stopped pacing and slouched into a brittle wooden chair, looking over the war table in his tent. "Warlords across the land are scared senseless of this badger, but I'm not even sure he's real!"

"The badger is real, brother."

Firetooth snapped his head back to see Sharptooth had entered the tent, fully-armoured and with a glint in his eyes. "My scouts beyond the Northlands sent word this morning. They passed through an outpost, razed to the ground. The beasts bodies bore the marks of Long Patrol sabres."

"Ever heard of knocking?" Firetooth shot back.

"I wasn't aware that tents had wooden doors," Sharptooth drily replied. "But I travelled a long way, and not simply to shatter your delusions of security."

"Oh, be silent, brother!" Firetooth hissed. "I have a scar the size of your face down my side from that last battle. Countless of our vermin lie dead. Weeks of production were wasted." He paused, as if he reconsidering. "Woof are strong right now, true, but I will not fight that Badger with so-called Honour at my side, only to see them turn on us as soon as we bring him down!"

Sharptooth slowly approached Firetooth, then put his paw on his shoulder. "You are right to fear the Wolf as you fear the Badger...but this is a time of opportunity."

Firetooth's eyes lit up. "Opportunity?"

"Opportunity," Sharptooth repeated. "For weeks now, every warlord from the bottom of Southsward to the heights of the Northlands has been focused on preparing for war, on massing armies, on gathering resources." He moved a paw to the war table, pushing the armies of Honour outwards as he continued "but they haven't been expecting a covert strike. So much focus is on the border patrols spotting some huge army, that they have lost sight of the more subtle and insidious modes of war."

Firetooth rose to his feet, looking directly into Sharptooth's eyes. "Just last week, my spies reported back on Wolf Bite's assets. The grizzled old dog had over $140 billion dollars already, just a fortnight after the battle of the Crookedstone Peaks!"

"$170 billion" Sharptooth replied, passing Firetooth a scroll from his cloak. "This intel is fresh from today. I have my finest agents, dispersed across strategic points on the Wolf's border. At my word, they will strike and strike hard. They will not manage to push through his borders, but...." he slowly pushed the pieces on the board to one corner of Wolf Bite's demense, as he continued "...they will draw attention to certain areas. They will distract and confuse, and in that confusion, that chaos, there comes the possibility for...enterprise."

Sharptooth leaned closer to the board, then brushed aside Wolf Bite's entire army with a swift swipe of his paw. "Opportunity."

A sinister grin lit up Firetooth's face. "Give the order, brother. I have some...financial restructuring, to attend to." With those words, Firetooth slung a cloak around his shoulders, picked up a sword, and strode out the tent .

The limp was gone.
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Firetooth let out a mighty roar as he cut down another one of Wolf Bite's beasts, nearly slipping in blood as he staggered across the stony floor of the Honour Capital.

"This wasn't supposed to happen!" he snarled, blocking an axe blow from a stoat as he then ducked the morningstar of a rat. Dozens of beasts were flooding towards Firetooth and his elite team of operatives, climbing over the corpses of those that had fallen before them.

As he paced back, the voice of an ermine lieutenant called from the back. "We're blocked here too, Lord Firetooth!"

Firetooth snarled as he knocked the four beasts before him over with a sweep of his tail, before throwing two of his men in front of his as he pushed back into his own line. "There's a third way out here! Firetooth growled. His men were still lugging huge bags of gold, embezzled from the treasury of Honour.

"There's no way we get this gold back with us!" the ermine yelled.

Firetooth let out an angry snarl, grabbing the ermine closer and looking him in the eye. "If we can't steal it, we dispose of it!" he yelled, pointing out a nearby window with his paw. "That river there? The current is strong and deadly, and leads straight into the Hollow Sea!" Firetooth released the ermine, and continued to strafe down the corridor. "We fight our way out of here and dump it there. Wolf Bite has no navy and few vermin outside his capital - his money was all he had."

As the ermine followed with the surviving few men, dragging bags of gold behind them, a grin of insane glee crossed the wildcat's face. "He'll never get it back!"

Firetooth waded through the piles of bodies underfoot, occasionally prodding one of the wretched corpses before him with his spear to check for life. The ground was wet but warm, slick with blood as well as damp. The sky was grey, and the day was dead as the vermin around him.

"Hmm. Very good!" Firetooth growled. "Everyone!" he snarled. "I need our men to assemble back at camp. Ragtooth, Crookedclaw and Fargut? Assemble a score of men each, and keep picking through the bodies. If any beast is still breathing...you remedy that." He gestured towards in the direction of the camp. "The rest of you, move out!"

As his ears were bombarded with a chorus of subservient voices, the great Wildca stalked towards camp. The air was cold, and he wrapped his cloak tightly around him as he strode. He winced, feeling a sharp pain in his side. Leaning on his spear for support, he continued stubbornly onwards towards the camp.

What a battle it had been. Leading his forces from the cover of the nearby woodland, Firetooth's vanguard had lured the enemy forces under the command of honour right into his trap. As bitter fightingwaged on, Firetooth's forces had flanked the melee on both sides, whilst vermin fighting for Shadow the Stoat had hit the beasts of Honor from the rear. One-on-one fighting had descended into a bloodbath, as the encircled, terrified enemies of Woof fought for their lives.

Firetooth winced again, holding the wound in his side as he limped onwards. Wolf Bite, he inwardly snarled. Right as Firetooth's own retinue had almost reached the great Wolf himself, he had managed to break through the encirclement and flee. Firetooth had even crossed blades with the Wolf, before a loyal lieutenant of Honour skewered him through the side with his spear. In the confusion, Wolf Bite had escaped, along with many of his men, whilst Shadw and his forces chased them in hot pursuit.

"I will catch that sanctimonious, senile old dog!" Firetooth snarled, as he finally reached camp and collapsed by the fire side. A scrawny weasel immediately ran up to him and started tending his wound, whilst an unfamiliar face in his camp approached - a pristine and silky pine marten, untainted by the mark of war.

"Firetooth?" the marten greeted him, flourishing his fine navy cloak to reveal the signage of Woof. "I am Apollo, the Viscount of Kirkbridge. I come bearing two messages."

"Apollo?" Firetooth responded, surprise crossing his face. "You look familiar tho-argh!" Firetooth let out a sharp cry of pain, before pushing the weasel medic away. "No more!" he snarled, despite the weasel's protestations. "Attend to my men! I'm fine." As the weasel scurried away, Firetooth turned back to Apollo. "My apologies. What message do you bring to your leader?"

Apollo gave a quizzical look upon hearing Firetooth was leader of Woof, but nevertheless spoke with an even and clean edge to his voice. "this may come as a surprise to you, Lord Firetooth, but the woof council has sent me and my forces to help you withdraw immediately from the lands of Wolf Bite...and end all hostilies."

Firetooth sprang to his paws, with a hot fire in his eyes. "What?! he snarled, stepping forward so that he was looking directly down into the marten's eyes. "Withdraw?! We have that miserable old dog on the run. I would have finished him myself, had his attack dogs not saved him." He paused, trying to regain some semblance of calm as his nostrils flared. "Give me one reason! Just one!"

"Certainly," Apollo replied without a hint of fear in his voice, as he passed a broken saber hilt to the wildcat.

"What is th-" Firetooth murmured, stopping as he swept away some grime and saw but two letters.

"The Long Patrol" Apollo somberly said. "The Badger Lord is coming!"

The whole point of RP is to play different roles and try to see things from the perspective of different characters. I usually play my first playthrough in line with my own values and principles, so sort of like neutral or perhaps chaotic good (ish), but then subsequent ones have to vary a bit.

We have chickens too!

I hate them; the cockerel always goes straight for me. Keep well away, imo.