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Discussion => Reg Discussion => Topic started by: Ereptor on March 01, 2005, 03:05:16 PM

Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Ereptor on March 01, 2005, 03:05:16 PM
 We all know that the reg server has lost many players.  One thing that has not been brought up as much is the lack of clans.  Clans are to dangerous it seems.  If you are in one and you have enemies, well you won't last to long.

So I am proposing something to change that.

Give clans more positives.  Have the clans work on donating resources towards a common goal.  First you give the clan a bank and a banker, err someone who controls the flow of supplies within the clan.  He oversees who gives money and who doesn't and can in turn give out aid to any clan member or allie.

This could be easily abused.  So lets add something else.  Lets say, for analogy sake that once a clan gets 100 bill cash, 50 bill food and 10 bill of each troop that they can buy a fortress.  The fortress gives extra defense and protection from any enemy trying to attack, steal, poison, etc.

I think this could bring back clans.  We are at a stage where we are losing many players by the week.  So this could be a good time to bring some new ideas to the table and help us get this game back on track.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Scarwake on March 01, 2005, 03:30:25 PM
 Now, I know this might sound odd seeing as I rarely don't agree with anything this ole chum has to say, but I feel that this is a really good idea and could be quite another exciting part of the game.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Holby on March 01, 2005, 03:44:12 PM
 Another idea of Ereptor's he's brought up before and still yet to be considered.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 01, 2005, 05:35:09 PM
 I think clans need a boost, but I'm against clan banks too many exploitations, if we do get banks make em along the line of Vahall and ZA Prom's ideas, those work fine.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: andrew on March 01, 2005, 07:08:28 PM
 limit attacks
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 01, 2005, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: andrewlimit attacks
That is the only way a kill is possible, though.  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Peace Alliance on March 01, 2005, 08:54:46 PM
 I was thinking of some ways to balence clans. Since the next commanders i think will be a scewed version of a clan war...
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: andrew on March 01, 2005, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: DeathclawThat is the only way a kill is possible, though.
dying is a main reason no one wants to be in a clan
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 01, 2005, 09:42:21 PM
Quote from: andrewdying is a main reason no one wants to be in a clan
But without a kill being possible, war is pointless. You NEED to be able to have kills.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: RazorClaw on March 01, 2005, 09:57:40 PM
 But Ereptor's idea will make kills and other assualts harder. I think 10B of each troop type is too much. Maybe 100M.  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Nohcnonk on March 01, 2005, 10:13:03 PM
 Depends on how much you have, but he was just making a point, not using exact values.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: RazorClaw on March 02, 2005, 09:36:32 AM
 Perhaps attacks could be limited, but it's 21 per person in the warring clan? that way, the other clan has to work together to make the kill, and it's harder to bring someone from 30K to zero.  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Arguia Zsah on March 02, 2005, 10:26:46 AM
 Amazingly good ideas! Would make RWl reg much more fun! (not that it isn't at the moment, of course)  :D  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 02, 2005, 03:39:37 PM
 Go to valhall ask for the source code check it out and use it, it's based on clan total net so as your clans grows you can store more things.

Andrew, you have a point killing is too easy, I think that once your reach 750 land you should only be able to be broken for land by standard attacks. But getting rid of killing is like killing the game, it's a war game for pete's sake there must be killing.

I think clans ought to get bonuses, clans with 1 or 2 ppl get nothing, clans with 3-5 ppl get a +10% Off. and Def. bonus 6-9 get  +10% Off. Def. Indy. and Loyalty and clan 10-12 players large get +10% in every category, the larger clan size decreases land grabbing potential so the bonus don't get too good, % is open for discussion and the categories, and number of ppl in the clan or other ideas ppl have(like total net average rank, average net and so on).

I also think shadow clans need to be adressed, no one should be able to leave or be kicked out of a clan for 48 hours, and empires in protection should not be able to join or create clans.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: andrew on March 02, 2005, 05:07:36 PM
 juska understands my point, kills are essential, but being in a clan gurantees death.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 02, 2005, 05:10:41 PM
 It doesn't guarantee death, and your original point was to eliminate the possibility of BEING killed, which Juska didn't agree with.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: andrew on March 02, 2005, 05:14:35 PM
 i said limit attacks not eliminate the ability to kill


there was a time when one did not have to be in a clan to kill
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 02, 2005, 07:49:52 PM
Quote from: andrewi said limit attacks not eliminate the ability to kill
You can't get kills with limited attacks. Kill runs take at least 100 attacks, sometimes more. Limit attacks, you can't kill.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 02, 2005, 09:02:26 PM
 Death stfu lousy shadow clan hoping peice of (junk).

Don't talk about clans and killing noob.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Maximus Preliator on March 03, 2005, 02:43:53 PM
 No, I agree with Juska about the shadow clan thing. Peace first demonstrated how easy it is to make kills with in and out of clans with Slayer. Than in this last "war" Wrath did the same thing. Protection people can join clans, but can't hold any position like leader. And the bug DC used should be fixed. The harder to break people with low land should be used too. Or watch as RWL slowly dies from it's 800 players, to it's 200 players, to its 100 players, to it's now 20 players, to the top 10. To one.  B)  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 07, 2005, 07:34:10 PM
 
Quote from: JuskaDeath stfu lousy shadow clan hoping peice of (junk).

Don't talk about clans and killing noob.
Are you calling me a noob?  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Death Eater on March 13, 2005, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: Deathclaw
Quote from: andrewi said limit attacks not eliminate the ability to kill
You can't get kills with limited attacks. Kill runs take at least 100 attacks, sometimes more. Limit attacks, you can't kill.
Sorry to hop in, but your wrong. Just wrong.

You can still kill if you limit attacks. We have it at QMT. That is, limiting the number of attacks each EMPIRE gets, and taking away a hit limit? You get it? So just say Empire A needs 100 attacks on him to be killed (he can be clanned or unclanned). Empire B and C (which are in a clan), can attack a max of 50 times each. So Empire B attacks his 50, and he hits his attack limit. Than Empire C attacks his 50 and hits his limit, but Empire A is dead.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 13, 2005, 08:11:25 PM
 Seeing that you are a retard and a coward I'll spell it out for you.

D-e-a-t-h-c-l-a-w y-o-u a-r-e a n-o-o-b!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: RazorClaw on March 13, 2005, 09:34:23 PM
 Not really. Call him an idiot, a retard, whatever you wish, but he's been here longer than you.  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Deathclaw on March 13, 2005, 11:22:35 PM
Quote from: RazorClawNot really. Call him an idiot, a retard, whatever you wish, but he's been here longer than you.
Yes, I've been here longer than you and am a better player than you. How am I a noob?

The reason I said a hit limit would disable the ability to kill was because the hit limit on RWL is 22 on an unclanned or not at war person, not by a hit limit per horde attacking.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: wolf bite on March 13, 2005, 11:25:01 PM
 Come on Juska and other people, lets play nice.


Wolf Bite
(Admin Duties)
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: windhound on March 14, 2005, 02:16:18 PM
 
Quote from: Death Eater
Quote from: Deathclaw
Quote from: andrewi said limit attacks not eliminate the ability to kill
You can't get kills with limited attacks. Kill runs take at least 100 attacks, sometimes more. Limit attacks, you can't kill.
Sorry to hop in, but your wrong. Just wrong.

You can still kill if you limit attacks. We have it at QMT. That is, limiting the number of attacks each EMPIRE gets, and taking away a hit limit? You get it? So just say Empire A needs 100 attacks on him to be killed (he can be clanned or unclanned). Empire B and C (which are in a clan), can attack a max of 50 times each. So Empire B attacks his 50, and he hits his attack limit. Than Empire C attacks his 50 and hits his limit, but Empire A is dead.
thats limiting attacks in a different way

at RWL empire A is not allowed to be hit more than 22 times by the whole game
if empire B gets in his 22 attacks, empire C cannot hit at all because the empire has reached their quota for the time

however, this probably has been tweaked and works differently for different games
QMT's version of limiting attacks allows kills, because maxxing is per horde attacking, not defending
RWL's makes it much harder, but still possible given a longer amount of time for the horde to become unmaxxed
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 14, 2005, 05:33:47 PM
 Time doesn't matter when calling people noobs, Deathclaw is acting like a new person(noob) would even though he's been here for however many years therefore he is a noob.

I am better than you, if you think I'm not then accept my challenge and duel me otherwise stop your shadow clan hoping (junk) and play like a man and the vet you claim to be not like the noob I know you are.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: RazorClaw on March 14, 2005, 10:31:03 PM
 I like the QMT limited attacks. Makes one-person kill runs impossible, but if you're unclanned, you're not immune.  
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 20, 2005, 08:40:08 AM
 JUska, shut the (hades) up. I'm really sick and tired of reading it.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 20, 2005, 12:53:10 PM
 Well, I haven't posted in a day, since I've given up trying to convince DC he's wrong.....

Besides my posts in this topic are like a week old, you coulda posted in the hot topic.....
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 20, 2005, 05:35:53 PM
 All around the forums you're putting DC down. It's really degrading, so stop it.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 20, 2005, 09:01:31 PM
 I could care less about upholding his "good" reputation.

Why are sticking up for him now when you clearly sticking all the blame on him in your ealier posts?
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 20, 2005, 09:35:10 PM
 this has nothing to do with that. I'm sick of you thinking you are a better person than everyone else and treating him like he's trash. Maybe through your shallow eyes.. I pity you.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 20, 2005, 10:29:03 PM
 Is it my fault he is?

I'd almost rather have DC's pity than yours.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 20, 2005, 10:58:25 PM
 *sigh*

my god, you're pathetic. Grow up.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: windhound on March 20, 2005, 11:33:49 PM
 heh.  cut it out

'snare, this topic was 5 days stale and you bring it back with somthin very closely resembling flame

Juska, we've gotten the message you dont care for deathclaw, we dont need further proof ;)

thanks
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Wolf Snare on March 21, 2005, 01:32:51 AM
Quote from: JuskaDeath stfu lousy shadow clan hoping peice of (junk).

Don't talk about clans and killing noob.
^_^

Fair enough, he isn't worth it.  though I believe that was more offencive than what I said.

and I just chose this topic randomly, since juskas slander is all over the forums anyways.
Title: Death of the clans
Post by: Juska on March 21, 2005, 07:24:58 AM
  :toast:  to my slander.

Course you all know I don't like DC, it was Snare idea to start it up again.