Retto's too alone in his job, right? Get someone with him there. This is a big site, can't you get competent admins?
Note, this follows a conversation with Holby, Vera, Peace, and myself. We agreed on:
Stormclaw: not here
Ragefur: not here
Boze: rarely seen
Shael: does nothing - could have stayed a mod
Ad: does harm rather than good
Retto: decent(est) administrator
So... think about it.
[edit]Sorry I have to break the opinion to you... or frankly not sorry.
*quietly*
"Does nothing?"
I think he means you do the least admin-related actions compared to the rest, mostly just mod actions. Just rudely, of course. ^_^;;;
And who on this forum are you suggesting?
I shall be blunt to provoke opinion.
You honestly do only mod actions right?
I don't know about you, but Shael does a lot of admin actions for me! She is very prompt and polite, and I appreciate having her around.
:)
~agrees with him~
Quote from: Ad The Rat~agrees with him~
Agrees with who? Sorry, just that could be read many many different ways...
-Vera
Well, in that case, my opinion is that the forum could use another admin, but who exactly do you have in mind that's around and able, dearest Burninate?
Quote from: BurninateRetto's too alone in his job, right? Get someone with him there. This is a big site, can't you get competent admins?
Note, this follows a conversation with Holby, Vera, Peace, and myself. We agreed on:
Stormclaw: not here
Ragefur: not here
Boze: rarely seen
Shael: does nothing - could have stayed a mod
Ad: does harm rather than good
Retto: decent(est) administrator
So... think about it.
[edit]Sorry I have to break the opinion to you... or frankly not sorry.
I truely don't recall agreeing on that. In fact I think shael is a wonderfull admin, challange her with anything admin related and she will get right on it. I don't think there is anything she doesn't take into consideration with common sense.
~Peace's day off from being off.~
i dont really pay attention but i wouldn't mind haveing another admin around.
*quietly sits in the forum back row, rocking on her heels.*
Probably because the mod actions are the only ones you hear about, Your Highness.
Pick someone other than the normal, "liked" or "popular" forumgoer.
Maybe give someone like Ereptor, Peace, or Beatles a try.
Perhaps Raine?
I think people that care a little bit less about the way their actions will be viewed by the community could do a better, more efficient, and fairer job. It's worth a shot.
Nothing against the current ones.
Note: I think Shaels doing an excellent job.
Sorry if I don't notice what Shael's doing...
In my mind the only 'admin actions' worth noticing are things that affect every forum member. E.g. new forum, avatar size limit change, upload limit change, PM limit change, etc.
Of course things like custom name changes are useful, but less immediately relevant and urgent.
It's usually good when an admin does NOTHING, because that means the forum is running well.
Pardon me, if I had somehow known that was what you wanted, I would've done something to make your stay at RWL all the more pleasant. I can't notice everything wrong with the forums, but if you messaged me about it, like all the other happy little people who posted in this topic do, I assure you I would've done something about it, those are trivial things.
If you don't like the avatar size limit, I don't know that, so I can't do anything about it. Everyone else has caught onto the idea of "Ask and you shall receive."
[EDIT]
Reply to Aden's: There's another thing. When admins tried to make the forums better for y'all, all you did was complain about what we were doing. And now you're complaining about us doing nothing.
QuoteMaybe give someone like Ereptor, Peace, or Beatles a try.
Perhaps Raine?
While these people would be good, Raine and Peace Alliance couldn't happen, as Peace doesn't come around much, and Raine only once in a happy blue moon.
Of course, I'd lurve to see John an admin, but alas it can't be, as I don't see that happening any time soon. Stormy banned him a few times, too. :)
I don't know about Ereptor, he doesn't like me very much.
errrrr.................what? Specify what John.
To me, it appears some people are thinking the reasons why this topic was brought about and know them, yet don't believe it necessary to bring them up /again/. While others persist on challenging the topic. Doesn't work too well.
Let me point out just a few thing we should know already know for those who don't:
What Ad did in closing the forum was wrong. As a rule, he puts his emotions ahead of his duty to RWL too often. Why people continuously defend him as an admin I don't understand. Ad is a nice person, always willing to talk openly. However, his actions as an admin do little good. He closes topics he doesn't want to deal with, doesn't act when he has to, and over these last couple of months I have found it hard to get him to perform simple, required duties.
Shael generally is a fantastic mod. She mods. She mods well. She mods to please.
As an admin, however, she (like Ad) does not do what needs to be done by all on the administration team: Treat everyone equally.
If we turn to what happened with Peace and Wolf Bite, Shael did not act on it until there was simply no other choice. Neither did Ad. As a matter of fact, no-one did. This was wrong, however, when she had to do something, it was to ask the forums what to do.
Shael tries to be a crowd-pleaser, for everyone to like her. Heck, I like Shael, too. But we need people in such an important role to treat everyone fairly, to keep the forums in a decent state, and not be afraid to make decisions what will affect their popularity.
Retto is ok with me, but one person alone can't keep things in shape.
The other admins aren't around, they need not be mentioned.
In this post, I think I touched something I've spoken about often- favouritsm. Whether it be in regards to newbs, groups, clans, or the best players, it is something that affects us negatively. And it has to be stopped. It was a major reason I left these forums.
It is killing this place, to be entirely truthful. People say that there is no point being negative, that it makes things worse. But the first step to fixing a problem is finding it and admitting it. I've seen less and less posts each day, very, very few with anything worthwhile in them.
Those of us who joined early on were lucky. We were the first, so we were accepted. We formed a little group, and when new people joined, we weren't really too crash-hot on that. Things were nice as they were. So we were mean to them. I don't know how conscious we were of that, but it was true. We would criticise the new clan, make fun, or complain about their poor spelling and grammar skills.
And when finally we would start to accept that lot, those hurt and battered would begin on those who joined after them. This formed a continuous chain that has never ceased. We still don't treat new people very well, we still like our ole RWL and memories. But this is wrong, it is the major factor in our boads dying. If we had an admin who could try and fix that while still doing what has to be done, this would be a much better place for everyone, not just for the in group and beginners.
I know I have said somehting along the lines of this before, but people seem to forget. Remember this time.
-Holby
Can you give specific examples of recent favoritism?
Also, Aden:
1. you don't visit here much
2. the boards are obviously not doing well: look at all the people leaving, the flame wars, Ad closing it down...
~Beatles
[edit]Shael, he just did... Instead of blindly defending yourself, listen to us.
Just because I don't post doesn't mean I don't visit much. I visit the forums everyday to see what silly argument or what silly post has been posted in the forums. :rolleyes: Thank you for the misinformation, Beatles.
I never said the board was doing well. I just said that is what it will seem like when the admins do nothing.
What? I'm not "blindly defending myself". It was an honest question. It's not that I didn't think there wasn't any favoritism going on, I just wanted a recent example. If you meant the Peace/Wolf Bite problem, can you explain to me how that shows favoritism? Yes, exasperating, I know, I'm stupid.
Sheesh, I just try to give you a chance to explain your side of the story a little more, and you jump on me.
From what I've seen, most of the problems on these forums have been between the members. There's much hostility here(i.e. this thread). What do you want the admins to do? Force members to be nice to each other?
...
I'd like to help in some way...
Quote from: The Lady ShaelCan you give specific examples of recent favoritism?
How recent would you like? How about yesterday, when Ad closed the forums because Cal was offended.
I was offended when I was Angrod and people verbally attacked me because I was a new player. He didn't close the forums for me.
I was offended when wolf was made to look like the bad guy in the peace and wolf thing. Did he close the forums for me?
I'm sure you were hurt over the same subject, did he close them for you?
As for Ad, I think his emotions got the better of him. It's good that he's taking off the admin job for right now, because his emotions were affecting his actions. He is a very emotional person.
As for other actions by admins, it does look like the less-established members are on a short leash.
I'm a new member, and I'm not on any leash. It's how you act that desides how the admin respond.
*sighes quietly*
We need mods, not admin.
*goes back to rocking on her heels*
That's why I didn't say "new members." There can be old members that still haven't established a good reputation with others. Tip for admins: Be consistent.
Ahem. You dare destroy my vacation from RWL to do homework? (Okay, not vacation, torture.) Well, for one, I think the admins do a great job. Boze and Stormy work on the coding. Just because they don't come around every so often banning members doesn't mean they aren't active. I'll tell you what, try AIM-ing one of them. You'll find them to be very responsive. (Okay, that applies to Ad at the very least, but I assume tit goes for the others as well.) Shael mods a lot. So what? She helps to keep the forums clean. Besides, what exactly do you consider an "admin action"? Anyhow, don't say anything about Ad and Retto. Try getting to know them in-game first. As for emotions, that's a good thing.
Quote from: AdenIt's usually good when an admin does NOTHING, because that means the forum is running well.
This is the most senseable thing said on this topic. I agree with this exactly. My past positions in forums as either being a admin or just a forum goer is that admins are there when you have questions or need help and to enforce a legitament rule.
Some of these enforcments of this forum by mods and some by Ad have been childish IMO. Other than that retto and Boze do a fine job. Favoratism should never be a part of your job no matter what it is. I like Ad as do most and am sorry to see him go. But things must change i suppose.
Oooh, okies, Aden.
I agree with Ming, but something ate my brain and I forgot what I was going to say. :blink:
My input (OK i know you don't want it, but what can i say, i have no homework!):
Whats an admin for?
An admin is in charge of the more business part of things. In terms of this forum, they would be in charge of Moding when they se anything modable, making sure things work, and dealing with complaints.
Whats a Mod for?
Moderators have to make sure things are within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme. They would watch the language and make sure people are taking direct personal jabs at each other. Although as for flame moderation, I have a whole other opinion on that. You people seem to have it in your head that if i say "well that point was dumb" that i have just flamed you and your family and your race and your ancestors and you cat. anywho, not gonna get into that.
Whats a family(ot whatever your agent of socialization was) for?
To teach you all how NOT to be jerks. To teach you how to respect others and how to ne kind. Ig johnny smith decides he wants to be a jerk to a newb, it was because johnny smith hasn't had the proper socialization. If your expectations for an admin or moderator are that they have to re-socialize everyone on the forums... Then i do believe you are a nutball.
Whatsthis post for?
Its to point out that you can't blame all of lifes problems on the admininstration of a RWL forum. Ad broke down not because of the breakdown of the RWL forum, it was because of something in his own life. People need to learn how to accept things. I've said this 1000000000000 times before on tese forums, but i'm going to say it again.
Do not get so dang upset from the comments of someone who you don't even know who lives miles and miles away from you and who you will never actually meet and should care about!
And stop being so negotive, if you would all just reolize you are here to talk about a game, then maybe you wouldn't get so emotional that you end uo closing forums and crying (no offense ad).
Whoah.......Good point...
I agree.
Its important not to get offended by everything you see. If everyone were to do that, the world would be full of everyone walking on their tip toes making sure they don't step on someone elses.
*Blinks* Peace..that was so true.. And can someone try logging into Homnelands? It always tells me that "The AG server is currently overloaded due to hardware problems." I'm wondering if it's the fault of my computer or not.
Quote from: RiverpawAhem. You dare destroy my vacation from RWL to do homework? (Okay, not vacation, torture.)
:)
QuoteBoze and Stormy work on the coding. Just because they don't come around every so often banning members doesn't mean they aren't active.
I was talking about the forums. On top of that, I thought Stormclaw resigned as admin. And nowhere did I say being an admin was about banning people.
QuoteI'll tell you what, try AIM-ing one of them. You'll find them to be very responsive. (Okay, that applies to Ad at the very least, but I assume tit goes for the others as well.)
I have. I've IMed Ad about RWL related stuff. He normally says to send him a PM. I've IMed Retto. If you require something done, he does it. Retto is alright.
I've IMed Stormclaw. Unfortunately, he has very little to do with RWL... Ah well, funny fella.
QuoteShael mods a lot. So what? She helps to keep the forums clean. Besides, what exactly do you consider an "admin action"?
Shael is a good mod. She does not make admin decisions. An admin action? IMO, an action made as admin that is generally for the good of the majority of the community, that can solve problems and put worked up minds at rest, while still maintaining a fun place to be in. However, equal and fair treatment must take place in any action made.
QuoteAnyhow, don't say anything about Ad and Retto. Try getting to know them in-game first. As for emotions, that's a good thing.[/
Don't say anything about them? I assume you just mean in a negative way. I have not said anything about Retto. I have said that Ad is incompetent because he gets carried away with his emotions, that he ignores things that he doesn't want to deal with. I don't see how it is wrong to point out things that need fixing. Emotions don't help an admin, they are not a good thing when you are biased to one side because of the way you feel. I know Ad, he was the first person I ever IMed. We used to talk for long periods of time and often, but not so much anymore. In regards to in-game, Ad follows the same pattern in playing. I don't understand why watching will help me out any. :blink:
[EDIT] Forgot to sign my name ^_^
-Holby
I also think it's good for Ad to take a break. I didn't know the forums were locked, (I didn't even know you could do that) but that wasn't right.
I'm not one of the "olbies" (hate that term, hate it) because I joined the forum at the very end, so no one really noticed me. Then I became the "spammer" I suppose I am now.
But seriously, you (generally) keep whining about how you want new admins, and haven't specified anyone.
Things that need to change:
- The word filters. Come on. Some of the "filters" are flames. Like "I am a fool", that's Ad "flaming" you. "." Hehe.
- Emotions. If you personally are offended...it...just no.
- Playing sides. There can't be any of that.
But you also can't pick the admins to be people you like. They may be your friend, but also not fit for admining.
Overall, my forum is a billion times more fun because there has been absolutely NO controvery, there's no word filters and I've never seen one extreme swear, there has never been a flame, and yet, magically, we still have fun.
Hey, molto cool. Who I would like as admin is not the same as who would want admin.
Beatles, Xenocide, and Wolf Bite would all be top-class. Unfortunately, not sure how much they like the idea, hehe.
*Thonks* Can I forget /again?/ Arg.
-Holby
Quote from: BurninateHey, molto cool. Who I would like as admin is not the same as who would want admin.
Beatles, Xenocide, and Wolf Bite would all be top-class. Unfortunately, not sure how much they like the idea, hehe.
*Thonks* Can I forget /again?/ Arg.
-Holby
Have to agree there, except with the addition of you on that list.
-Vera
Quote- Playing sides. There can't be any of that.
May I ask why not?
Because an admin/moderator should be impartial with his/her decisions, to be fair. Also, I would say that good candidates for an admin/moderator are Beatles, Xenocide, and Wolf Bite.
I think there need to be more mods... ones with cool tempers.
We've got almost half a dozen admins, and NO mods (Teufel resigned, right?)
That's a recipie for disaster.
Also, I need some anger management classes. That would help the forums as a whole.
And some Midol. A whole jumbo box of it.
Ever notice that these upsets occur once a month? :ph34r:
Quote from: OrcristBecause an admin/moderator should be impartial with his/her decisions, to be fair.
Oh sorry, I thought she was talking about forum members. The members should certainly be allowed to play sides.
Well, obviously. What's a person without an opinion?
Also, the banning of certain topics on Serious discussion forum as got to go.
Quote from: AdenWhat do you want the admins to do? Force members to be nice to each other?
Now that would rock. If it worked in kindergarten, why not now? That is really an idea to consider. Keep everyone in line. Or the other extreme: Tania's way - start with nice people.
But what I'm saying, one competent admin can't handle all this - get some!
Thanks for bringing that up, Cal, I forgot. Yes we need many mods, we've got almost none.
Also, WHY did you delete my topic and single post with the 'wowwow' account? It was probably the most important thing I've said on these forums. Whoever did it, come out so I can shoot you.
I checked the logs and it wasn't me, but you can go ahead and shoot me instead, if you'd like.
-In Reference to the original point of this topic. Forgive me if I totally switched the current point of the topic around or I've re-stated some other point another one made. If so, PM me and I'll edit it.-
Being an Admin is a totally thankless and time-consuming job. No matter what any mod does, or any number of mods do to help this forum, they'll still be flamed to a crisp for any decision they make.
Take, for example, the Peace Alliance thread. I understand that the decisions made were not an acceptable admin decision, but this is only to be used and thought of as an example for my point. Wolf Bite and Peace were going at each other, and others were joining in heartily. (Including me.) All of them wanted something to be done, and when something WAS done, they flamed Ad so badly that he was probably hurting about it for the whole day.
Look now, Ad burned out in only 4-6 months because of you guys. Retto thankfully is surviving because he makes a decision, then !~Poof~! goes away. Shael might survive longer as admin, but because she always apologizes to the people when they get angry, which is every single time a decision is made. Note the above post made by Shael.
QuoteI checked the logs and it wasn't me, but you can go ahead and shoot me instead, if you'd like.
I for one would think I could accept becoming a Mod, but I know that I'm too soft-hearted to stick to my word after the first five-dozen people scream in my face for my decisions. I do agree that we need someone to fill the spot of admin, but I also think that it should be known that it's a totally thankless job, and all the decisions made are wrong in the eyes of the people.
(Note to all: RAD is an exception to the "Thankless job" part. I consider that RAD topics and "Admin-leaving" topics are the only time the majority of the forums congratulates the administrators' efforts. Sadly, we only have RAD. Not anything for Ad, who is un-doubtedly the more active of the two admins, or Shael, who is also an active administrator.)
Bravo, Aus.
I haven't been posting too much around here lately, as I've been trying to keep out of the line of fire. However, I have been reading pretty much everything that goes on here, and there is no one person to blame for, um, whatever you want to call what's going on. We're all to blame. Yes, everyone. And I won't say anymore because I'll probably end up offending someone. =)
[Edit - Yes! I can type, I promise!]
Admins... Well, Shael is a great admin. She's here often, she is active, she is all the things you could want in an admin. I think Ad was a great admin too. These people wouldn't have been made admins if they weren't up to the job. If there were no admins, how would these forums end up?
Be thankful for the admins we have.
(yes.. I think we need more mods..)
Well, I've been around for a year, and I can think of a lot of people who would be good admins. But we need a bunch of mods that get on here twice a day and DON'T play sides. We can't have people saying windhound gets gagged for spamming repeatedly (sorry, windy, I'm just using you as an example) and then saying that Julie gets off because she's popular. I know I'm not very good material for modship or adminship, but we do need more people modding and administrating.
*Puts "Great Admin" hat on Shael's head*
Why do I get ignored, may I ask? I brought up the topic of needing mods first...Which we seriously do.
Anyway... We need an AAD. And a new phrase for said AAD day; sounds like a disorder. :D :P
*pokes Ashyra*
Yes, Dixie, having 2.0000234 semi-active mods is not enough. Teufel is the bit after the decimal point.
For one, more mods, for one, decent rules.
Now, as to the main point.. this isn't about popularity, folks. It's about making the forum a good place to be in. If it's not, and several of you have admitted that it's not, then the admins aren't doing their job.
As for listening to suggestions... what about the one about merging Polling and GD now that there's a Spam room? Been out for some months, mentioned often...
Welllll....I hope they don't myself... We need mods. You're right. I think that Ashyra and windhound would be good mods, both have clean track records and are mature...*cheese cheese cheese*...At least, er, windhound is. :D
*sits back down in the back row of the forums*
More mods are defiantely needed, we currently only have 1 mod. Whom isn't able to access the forums like she wants to because she is in college and is swamped with college work, but when she is on she does her best to help out.
Shael did an excellent job when she was a mod and she is still doing an excellent job as an admin, but lets face it. We can't have one admin that does like everything one the forums. Retto does a lot, yes, but like said before he makes a decision then vanishes for sometime. Boze, doesn't get on the forums that much, or atleast he doesn't sign in...
Stormclaw, I dunno where he's been....He's been gone for like ever...
Soo, we have a lot of pressure on just one admin who tries her best to do what she can when she can. We need more than just one mod to help moderate the forums. I'd be more than willing to perform such a task, I know I could handle it, I've done it before on forums much larger than what we have here.
I would be flattered if I was chosen to help mod for a while.
We get it :)
People keep complaining about getting new admins and aren't even nominating anyone.
:)
Shael's not *the* admin that's admining, that would be more approximated by Retto, but hey, anyone'll pick the most popular...
Anyways, nominations so far include
Xenocide, Wolf Bite, Holby, Veranor, Ereptor, Peace, Tania, Dixie Rose, Ashyra, Windhound, Aus, and Beatles in no particular order at all. Should we poll or wait until an admin notices...?
Whatever you do, don't make me a mod.
I'm an irresponsible spammer..
^_^
(hehe.. I'm an Admin at Julie's forums.. it's a fun place to go mad with power..)
Retto WON'T make Beatl's a mod...
Stop forgeting the Accet Mark!
Might I second that one. Beatles will never be a mod here, at least while I'm an admin.
And...as to the "*poof* gone"ing...I'm always here. I'm always watching. I just don't post tons.
* Wonders why he's not suggested....... :ph34r: :ph34r:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: hah hah hah hah hah.........Xenocide and windhounds are good choices. Wolf Bite is not.
I think Ashyra and windy would make great mods.
Beatles, Xenocide, and many of the others have shown themselves to be too controversial at times.
Same reason why I'd never be an admin. I'm here all the time, and when I'm not PMSing I'm not all that bad, but I'm an opinionated person, and I don't mind getting people's dander up.
windy wouldnt mind being a mod, might be neat, meh..
anyways, I think that the current Admins arnt doing that bad, I mean, as I think was mentioned, if noone complains then there is little to fix or do.. a forum with low mod/admin activities is indeed a well run forum.. either that or a dead one..
Quote from: calriaI think Ashyra and windy would make great mods.
Beatles, Xenocide, and many of the others have shown themselves to be too controversial at times.
windy would probably make a good mod. But it appears to me that you are mentioning people who everyone likes, simply because they /are/ liked. Prolly because as a liked forum-goer they are less likely to get in a disagreement, or displease the crowd.
And you are saying people who shouldn't be picked aren't liked widely. THAT is a perfect example of the favouritism I was talking about. If we take the two you just mentioned, they have much in common. Beatles and Xenocide have opinions, are not afraid to say what they think and feel, show they stick by their friends and decisions, and help to make this place worthwhile to visit.
Because not everyone agrees with them or their ways has nothing to do with what would make a good admin. I would rather have one Xenocide or Beatles admin this forum than a thousand super-active Ashyras or TJs.
-Holby
Quote from: Burninate:)
Shael's not *the* admin that's admining, that would be more approximated by Retto, but hey, anyone'll pick the most popular...
Anyways, nominations so far include
Xenocide, Wolf Bite, Holby, Veranor, Ereptor, Peace, Tania, Dixie Rose, Ashyra, Windhound, Aus, and Beatles in no particular order at all. Should we poll or wait until an admin notices...?
Xenocide - He posts good stuff in the Ultra-Moderated discussion area, but I hardly see him post in General, and I doubt he has the time if that be the case.
Wolf Bite - Wolf would be a good admin, as he's around a lot and knows a lot of the people.
Holby - We loves Holby! Therefore, I don't know. ^_^;; I see him as a respected figure these days.
Veranor - Don't know. Sounds like a good choice.
Ereptor - He doesn't like me, so I'm not sure on how he is towards everyone else and the forum in general...;)
Peace - Gone, so I thought. If he were to come back he'd make a fine mod/admin.
Tania - *chortle*
Dixie Rose - Very good respectable wonderful choice :)
Ashyra - She doesn't want it, she'd be good at it. Despite the occassional cheese comment.
Windhound - A very honorable, nice person, I think. Seems pretty impartial, accepting.
Aus - I always thought Aus to be mod/admin material.
and Beatles - Retto says no :(
Aus and all these other nominations are the exact same people who have been administrating this job recently. They're liked, they're friendly, and they care what others think of them.
Ereptor and Beatles would be much better choices.
No one can make an unbiased or fair deciscion when they are friendly with the people involved.
By the way:
I do think Shael and Retto are doing a great job, just a bit short handed.
Xenocide - He is just here to hand with his friends and discuss unrelated topics. Doesn't seem like that would make a good mod, but i do think he is smart.
Wolf Bite - *says nothing so that nothing can be stirred up... even though people alrteady find it necessary to reference back to wolf/pa debate for some reason*
Holby - Hmmm... Well his help would be good, but i dont know if he might be able to stay unbias.
Veranor - sure, he is very sharp.
Ereptor - To contraversial wtill, I don't know if he could enforce the rules because i don't know if he even agrees with them all.
Peace - Well i am gone, but i've just come back to check out the ad leaving stuff and this topic sparked me intrest. i'll be gone again, so no peace alliance
Tania - *shrugs*
Dixie Rose - I find she to much of a "happy happy huggle huggle" type... maybe not.
Ashyra - Ah, nice person, i don't see any MOD qualitys.
Windhound - A very honorable, nice person, I think. Seems pretty impartial, accepting.
Aus - No way.... In my opinion he is trying WAY to hard to please everyone and thats not what everyone should be going for.
and Beatles - love the guy but even i donno if he could be trusted.
I think its important that if you do pick an new MOD, make it someone who is kind of uninvolved but still reads everything and cares.
ok now i'm gone, so AIM me or something
* Commodus, you are friends with Ereptor, thus, by your own reasoning.....
Also, would like to ba a mod I would. heh heh. :ph34r:
Another mod nomination, who I really think would be great...
Sha.
After all, she does keep up with what's going on here, and whenever there's a big blow up she always comes in and has something impartial and calming and diplomatic to say.
Not here enough Sha isn't.
A good nomination nonetheless.
Speak like Yoda, you do. Yes...
To speak like Yoda difficult it is. Be intelligent and wonderful one must.
Shrugs? Shrugs?
I don't diserve that.
Better to have no said anythig than shrugs...
*shrugs* Who cares about HER? She's just a girl.
Hey, I'm tough when I need to be...
Thanks, Tania!
Xenocide - Well, maybe. He doesn't post enough, tho'.
Wolf Bite - Well, he'd be biased IMHO... (sp?). What can I say?
Holby - He would be biased (sp) also. Maybe not.. Otherwise, great person.
Veranor - I don't think so. He's a good forum member, but I don't know about a mod...
Ereptor - Sure, why not? He'd be a pretty good mod.
Peace - Has been gagged---and flamed in the past. Wouldn't make a good mod.
Tania - YES! Tania'd rule as a mod!
Dixie Rose - You forgot the accent mark. :rolleyes: Uhh...I'd be highly flattered if I was picked.
Ashyra - CHEESE! RETTO! Doesn't want to be a mod; tho' she'd be a good one...
Windhound - YES. Great guy, great pick as a mod.
Aus - Sure, he'd make a fine mod.
and Beatles - No, says the <3 able Retto.
And Sha: Prefect mod! I for one would nominate her any day, date or time.
Yup, Sha is cool.
As for me and wolf, would like to see some of the biased stuff you're talking about.
Particularly wolf, have always known him to be fair. Anyone who's spoken to him will say the same.
-EDIT- *Grits teeth* Remember your own name, Holby! And thanks for the nice words, Dixie ^_^ .
-EDIT2- Look at our posts, 121. Ring a bell? :D
121! that was Hair Raiser's number.. *blinks* whoo! I remembered somthing from more than 3 seconds ago.. amazing that..
*nods*
and thankee too to Dixie, Peace, Menatus and the others who have some confidence in me..
I've left the past in the past but you don't seem to want to.
QuotePeace - Has been gagged---and flamed in the past. Wouldn't make a good mod.
Wrongfully gagged, no prof of flames, just here-say. Do NOT start this discussion again please.
(Reads posts)
I don?t really think this is up for vote. It would seem that the owners and controllers of this place will decide if and when who may be added.
Not wanting to leave anyone out, I have seen a lot of good candidate such as Holy, Aus, Dixie, Sha, and so on ?
But my reason to comment here is not to ?run? for the position nor nominate others, but to clear what seems to be a few misconceptions.
It may be true that I am perhaps the most insulted and semi insulted person here and that I do stand up for myself. If anything, the treatment I receive, that seem unmonitored by the mods, should be evidence that more controls are needed. But I am far from biased. If anything, I am properly the most non-biased person here. I make a living being fair to others despite whether I like them or not. Even within this community, those that seem to be my enemy are not what they may seem. As the war waged with Ereptor, we would chat on line about how life was going. I have had long and meaningful talks with both Peace and Josh (until they swear and I close their window). So please don?t assume that I take a personal dislike. Attempting to teach the moralities of society and the repercussions of people?s actions is not a personal dislike where I am unfair.
Also you mentioned Xenocide as not posting and not being here. That is as untrue as saying Retto is not here because of his low post count. Xenocide reads every topic and every post. Then thinks about what is being said and who said it. He knows those here much better they may think he does. He often voices his opinion to me on subjects that he is not sure whether he wishes to post in or not. Many may care about their post counts, seeing their own posts, or seeing others responses to their words. But some people only speak when they think they have something others should hear.
Wolf Bite
*reads*
If it weren't for the uproar that'd probably happen sooner or later, wolf bite'd be an awesome admin...
still, though, controversy seems to follow him unbidden.
~my unsolicited thirteen and a half cents~
I don't plan to, PA...
Sarah'd make a good mod...*eyes Sarah*
*eyes Dixie back*
Sarah would never be a mod because Sarah has broken forum rules before on a few occasions.
Sarah also would never be a mod because that would mean Sarah would have to watch what she said, and Sarah takes joy in saying the things that mods and admins would like to say but don't. *noddle*
Anyway, the general anti-cal populus would sqwawk lol!
er.. ~cough~ who said I watched what I say when I was a admin or Mod.
But you never say anything bad...
*eyes Sarah*
I guess no one would really like you as a mod...no offense. I would like you as a mod, but...*growls*
I'd rather call you Sarah then Calria. If you realllyy want to know why, you can PM me...
*ducks a flying thong*
*while humming "Going Under"*
Okay, you're out-weirded now, Ashyra...
You haven't out-wierded Ashyra. Not quite. You weren't on the old forums. *grimaces and shivers*
Yea, but I'm versatile. All she jokes about is Cheese. :P
hmmm.. will people stop throwing Sarah's thong around? I mean, it's hers.
This disscusion is getting really weird...
*ducks*
Hahar. I'm insane-er..
People actually think I'd be a good mod? Odd.. I spam too much. But I'm here all the time, which is good..
Yeah, Xenocide would make a good mod. Or Cal.
As much as I want Sarah to be a mod, she will not be a good one. Trust me and her.
Okay, Ad.
*ducks a flying thong*
Actually the sad thing is that I have supreme mod and admin envy, and I wish a lot of the time that I was one, but I would end up destroying something/someone within 2 and a half minutes. *laughs* I knowwww myself and am wise!
*puts her shiney purple thong back in a drawer*
o.0
I've learned enough.
On the other subject...if I was choosing the mods, I'd choose Tania and windy...I think they'd be effective...hah, I even remembered to uncapitalize windy's name.... :P
We need more then two mods, tho'...
*ducks a flying thong*
Aye.
Since this is becoming an issue for the populus, maybe we ought to have elections or whatever. *laughs* Or at least formalized nomination for the admins to consider and decide on...
I vote for the Thong.
Seriously?
windy would be good...
Actually, most/all of the people suggested would be good.
Quote from: Dixie Ros?We need more then two mods, tho'...
No, we don't. Trust me, it wouldn't be enjoyable with so many mods...
You think I'd make a good admin? Have you checked my forums...ever? It's nuts over there :)
QuoteIt may be true that I am perhaps the most insulted and semi insulted person here and that I do stand up for myself. If anything, the treatment I receive, that seem unmonitored by the mods, should be evidence that more controls are needed. But I am far from biased. If anything, I am properly the most non-biased person here. I make a living being fair to others despite whether I like them or not. Even within this community, those that seem to be my enemy are not what they may seem. As the war waged with Ereptor, we would chat on line about how life was going. I have had long and meaningful talks with both Peace and Josh (until they swear and I close their window). So please don?t assume that I take a personal dislike. Attempting to teach the moralities of society and the repercussions of people?s actions is not a personal dislike where I am unfair.
Is that a quote from Jesus or do you seriously think your god??
I don't even think a mod would help guys, I don't know why you are blaming all the forums problems on the admins and the mods. It has NOTHING to do with them. Its all because people get SO worked up, and SO insulted over every little thing where a notmal discussion cannot be had! Its so stupiud to get upset over something someone who don't know says. I can't believe you guys are now getting to the point where it upsets you so much you not only think they admins and nod should be controling what people SAY, there should be more of them to do it?
pffffffft
Quote from: Peace Alliance. . . Its all because people get SO worked up, and SO insulted over every little thing where a notmal discussion cannot be had! Its so stupiud to get upset over something someone who don't know says.
. . . pffffft . . .
Kind of like what you're doing now? :huh:
Look, Peace, I don't think you're the one who should be talking. I don't know what the heck you were trying to pull with that little password stunt, but you definitely seem to be more interested in getting laughs at other people's expense than you are in improving this forum/game.
On the contrary, Crock- you shouldn't be talking. Think about this reasonably: Peace has been around this game far longer than you. He definetly cares- that's why he left. He cares about the game and is sick of people who destroy the point of it. I agree with Peace that it's the people who need to shape up. An extra mod, if it's one who would help actively, would help though.
er.....what? Checkerpaw, in my experiance you've never made good points, and peace is making a very good point
I think Ashyra would make a good admin, so would Sarah, but I'm not too fond of her...(Sorry! :( ).......Menatus would as well, but after being at her forums for about a month,well.......Lets just say, it gets a tad scarey. ;)
On the contrary, Crock- you shouldn't be talking.
First of all, the name's Checkerpaw, not Crock.
Peace has been around this game far longer than you.
Not arguing this point, but if you're going to use this as the reason why I shouldn't be talking, then this forum really is headed for the pits.
He definetly cares- that's why he left. He cares about the game and is sick of people who destroy the point of it.
Read my post, please. I didn't say that he didn't care, what I did say is that he seemed more interested in getting laughs at the expense of others, and gave reference to a very recent incident.
I agree with Peace that it's the people who need to shape up.
Hey, I agree, too. Not arguing this point, either.
Checkerpaw, in my experiance you've never made good points, and peace is making a very good point
In my experience, neither have you. So we're even.
:)
One more thing. I may be a "newbie" at this forum but I sure don't say things like this: "Is that a quote from Jesus or do you seriously think your god??"
*sniff* Nobody loves me...
:rolleyes:
...and please, guys... we've had 7 pages so far of nothing getting really heated up. Let's not start now, eh?
So who are the nominations and how many mods?
...
errr... I don't think anything's really *really* being done here, officially-officially...
Quote from: CheckerpawOn the contrary, Crock- you shouldn't be talking.
First of all, the name's Checkerpaw, not Crock.
Peace has been around this game far longer than you.
Not arguing this point, but if you're going to use this as the reason why I shouldn't be talking, then this forum really is headed for the pits.
He definetly cares- that's why he left. He cares about the game and is sick of people who destroy the point of it.
Read my post, please. I didn't say that he didn't care, what I did say is that he seemed more interested in getting laughs at the expense of others, and gave reference to a very recent incident.
I agree with Peace that it's the people who need to shape up.
Hey, I agree, too. Not arguing this point, either.
Checkerpaw, in my experiance you've never made good points, and peace is making a very good point
In my experience, neither have you. So we're even.
:)
*decides just to quote the whole thing instead of taking out just the stupid parts... for practicality*
You names crock whether you like it or not! lol
You are new, so you don't know me, and you don't know orcist... And from your posts, its pretty simple you were just trying to be negotive towards the big bad Peace Alliance so you could look good to the others PA hataz.
I don't see how the password thing was at your expense. In fact i was just trying to see if Xen could figure it out, i'll assume you still haven't?
QuoteIn my experience, neither have you. So we're even.
In my experience all he's ever done is make good points, and you've been here for some of that experience too so you must be missing something.
QuoteOne more thing. I may be a "newbie" at this forum but I sure don't say things like this: "Is that a quote from Jesus or do you seriously think your god??"
learn how to use a quote box.
Oh, and get a sense of humer.
hmm, and maybe some brains...
Quote...and please, guys... we've had 7 pages so far of nothing getting really heated up. Let's not start now, eh?
A discussion... no matter how stupid, is still simply a discussion cal, don't get all upset simply because one person pointed out another persons stupidity.
Ok, my attempts at peace and tranquility aren't working, so I'm staying out of it.
I have been watching over this topic for a while now, and have come to a conclusion. I noticed that everyone has been nominating the most popular and evenly liked people. However, when pondering over this issue, I realized that these people are not really the nicest in the forum, and at times can actually be rather immature and quite rude towards others.
Therefore, I beleive we should bring forth someone else. I am not yet at the point of naming people, though I would like for you all to hear me out.
Maybe it is best to choose someone who is nice to everyone. Someone who does not always post , but is always there, watching. Someone who always knows what is going on, but maybe doesn't post unless they are making a valid point. I believe that having someone with a kind, positive personallity as an admin will make this forum that much better.
I am asking for you to re-evaluate your nomination. It is best if they fit the above discription.
in my oppinion, I beleive wolf bite would make an excellent mod.
as would Dixie Rose.
Are the admins even going to appoint mods?
TROG's point totally leave me out of the possibilities. I'm immature, rude, and well-liked/popular!
funny... I dodn't really see TROG make a point. other then stuff that had been said. :\
Ooh. I'm getting nominated. That disturbs me. *stares*
Now, by the way, I would like to ad something: I have known Checkerpaw for a long time; and he both has a sense of humor, but lots of brains. Please drop it.
Quoteand he both has a sense of humor, but lots of brains
He very well may, but he hasn't shown it on the forums.
If I was an Admin or Mod, I'd delete all references to thongs. *grimaces*
*decides just to quote the whole thing instead of taking out just the stupid parts... for practicality*
I'd like to point out to everyone how polite and respectfully Peace is treating me.
You names crock whether you like it or not! lol
Haha, Peace, you really crack me up! You're an absolute hoot, you old joker, you.
You are new, so you don't know me, and you don't know orcist... And from your posts, its pretty simple you were just trying to be negotive towards the big bad Peace Alliance so you could look good to the others PA hataz.
DOES ANYONE NOTICE THE DOUBLE STANDARD HERE? Peace doesn't know me either, so how does he know that I'm just being negative to look good to others? You can ask Dixie Rose, and she'll tell you I'm not that type of person at all.
I don't see how the password thing was at your expense. In fact i was just trying to see if Xen could figure it out, i'll assume you still haven't?
I'm really starting to see what Wolf Bite meant when he complained about all your semi-insults. You like to take digs whenever you can. It's been figured out, by the way. I'm sure you think you were real smart, pulling that trick.
learn how to use a quote box.
I know how to use a quote box, I just choose not to use them. Why don't you learn some manners? And while your at it, why don't you learn how to spell? And capitalize?
Oh, and get a sense of humer.
hmm, and maybe some brains...
Once again, I'd like to point out how polite and respectful Peace is being.
By the way, here's a quote from the rules:
5. No flaming. Be nice to each other. The RWL forum's definition of flaming: Deliberately and intentionally insulting another member on these forums, with serious intention to put that person down. This includes semi-flaming, which is a "hinted" flame, not a direct or outright flame, but still with intention to insult.
Here are some of the recent things Peace has said:
Is that a quote from Jesus or do you seriously think your god??
cal, don't get all upset simply because one person pointed out another persons stupidity.
*decides just to quote the whole thing instead of taking out just the stupid parts*
You names crock whether you like it or not! lol
In fact i was just trying to see if Xen could figure it out, i'll assume you still haven't?
learn how to use a quote box.
Oh, and get a sense of humer.
hmm, and maybe some brains...
This is all within the last page. Just thought I would hightlight some of this.
I've notices.. and sadly, I'm not a admin. I will be prodding Shael or Retto. I do believe Wolf bite would make a good Admin. He is far better and catching these little insults and will do something about them.
However.. it seems the other admins things that having more admins wouldn't help. But I guess I will keep pushing.
Wolf Bite is both opinionated and biased. Anyone involved in that many fights...
Dixie is trying awfully hard.
Only person that seems like a decent pick is windy.
I can vouch for Checkerpaw in the fact that he's smart, polite, and quite humorous at times. I also would like to politely ask PA to quiet down on the semi-flames, just to keep the debate civil.
Just like to point out an opinion:
QuoteWolf Bite is both opinionated and biased. Anyone involved in that many fights...
I personally think that the number of fights that you are in does not account for how biased or opinionated you are. In my mind, it can also mean that you have the guts to stand up for what you beleive in. Even if what you say is true, you also have been in a great many fights yourself, and therefore have little right to accuse others of the same "crime".
Good point, RNN Reporter. (Holby...?)
now, let me sort this out.....
Quotefunny... I dodn't really see TROG make a point. other then stuff that had been said. :\
Well Peace, thanks for pointing that out to us all. The point of me coming into this debate was not to repeat what was already said. I ask that you all just think for a moment. There are alot of kind, well thought of people in this forum, that deserve to become mods; we all know it. a fair point, thought as Shael said, we do not want to over croud our forum with mods. Therefore, I again ask you to rethink your nomination. Is this person really deserving? I do not wish to make a big fuss over something so small, though I feel it would be wise to think it over, rather than hastily choosing the most popular person nominated. No, I'm not asking you to dissect one anothers personallity, or anything of the sort. I beleive that a less popular player, who is intellegent, honest, and an all-round fair player would be a better choice than someone who is simply more popular.
Now Peace, why you must always attack people before you hear them out, I will never know, but I am sure you understand my point now?
Of course you may just be against the thought of me saying wolf bite would be a good choice. Although you have an obvious grudge against him, you must note that he would be a wise pick. Argue this if you must, but you cannot ignore the fact that he has just as much right of being here as you.
On Wolf as an admin- I think that would be good in the sense that he would catch little insults and such, but I think he might go just a tad overboard in that people have to understand that sometimes, they are wrong and therefore, if that's pointed out with a little jab, they should take that instead of saying "look how disrespectul so and so is being" or "look at this mean thing someone posted about me". People should learn to deal with it. My personal favorite is windy- in all my time at RWL, I have never seen him insult anyone for any reason. He is also not at all biased and is kind to everyone. That's just my 2 cents. Feel free to disagree with it, because if you insult me about it, I could care less.
Orcrist- I agree with you completely. And yet, if people would grow up a little arround here, these pathetic arguements could be easily avoided; half of them make no sence, the other half make no difference in the long run.
Yes, wolf would make a great mod, but when I take a closer look, as would windy. Both great players, and I personally like both of them. If two mods are to be selected, they would have my vote.
Let's drop the personal arguments or get out of the freaking topic, OK?
That goes for Trogdor, Peace, Checkerpaw.
Drop spam or leave the topic
That goes for Dixie Rose, Ashyra, Cal.
This isn't meant to be flames or spam. If you want to make it that, get out of the topic and find another place to take your issues or spam.
I see yourpoint in wanting to keep it clean in here, and can deal with the sterness in your statement.
However, I am here simply to get my point across, and am not flaming.
though as of your request, I will choose what I say more carefully.
Me? Um. Wow. *attempts to avoid blushing*
Anyway, as for me not being around.. I'm just not around when other people are. I'm usually reading the forums at about 7 AM Eastern time when no one else is around. I don't post because there's really no point to posting when you have nothing to say on the topic or what you want to say has already been posted.
And just a comment: I find it amusing how everyone (well, most everyone) is trying to act mod-like in this topic. It's great. =D I'm so proud of you all!
And as for needing moderators, yes, I agree, just because there's so much going on here, and not a lot of people to help. The moderators and admins we have now all do a good job, there's just not enough of them. And whoops, now I've repeated what's already been said. Bad Sha.
hmmmm......let's go through this
QuoteIn my experience you havn't either, so we're even
For one, I think your experience doesn't count for very much, and your one of the people I'd like to see leave the game. [Also, thanks to Peace for backing me up]
For another, as our experience started with you doing 30 attacks with me and partially ended with me smushling you in the ground, your bound to have a negative thought of me from your experience with me because you attacked me a lot so I smushed you. The reason it's partially is because whenever I'm in your attack range from now on I'm going to atttack you until you not in my attack range any longer.
I could go on, but just to recap: Windy good mod, Peace just right, Checkerpaw bad monkey, wolf bite not good mod.
What's even better is when people SAY they don't wanna be mod, but have big little puppy dog eyes. ^_^;;
Quote from: Checkerpaw*decides just to quote the whole thing instead of taking out just the stupid parts... for practicality*
I'd like to point out to everyone how polite and respectfully Peace is treating me.
You names crock whether you like it or not! lol
Haha, Peace, you really crack me up! You're an absolute hoot, you old joker, you.
You are new, so you don't know me, and you don't know orcist... And from your posts, its pretty simple you were just trying to be negotive towards the big bad Peace Alliance so you could look good to the others PA hataz.
DOES ANYONE NOTICE THE DOUBLE STANDARD HERE? Peace doesn't know me either, so how does he know that I'm just being negative to look good to others? You can ask Dixie Rose, and she'll tell you I'm not that type of person at all.
I don't see how the password thing was at your expense. In fact i was just trying to see if Xen could figure it out, i'll assume you still haven't?
I'm really starting to see what Wolf Bite meant when he complained about all your semi-insults. You like to take digs whenever you can. It's been figured out, by the way. I'm sure you think you were real smart, pulling that trick.
learn how to use a quote box.
I know how to use a quote box, I just choose not to use them. Why don't you learn some manners? And while your at it, why don't you learn how to spell? And capitalize?
Oh, and get a sense of humer.
hmm, and maybe some brains...
Once again, I'd like to point out how polite and respectful Peace is being.
Awww, 'lil checkerpaw is trying to be the cool kid again. Well there you have it folks, he is the polite one who has a great sense of humer and never hurts anyones feelings. I vote fir checkerpaw! He would make all the mean people go awaysees and we would nevers haves to deals with thems againsees!!!
QuoteAnd from your posts, its pretty simple you were just trying to be negotive towards the big bad Peace Alliance so you could look good to the others PA hataz.
Never said i knew you, just said what i've learned from your posts.
oh... oh wait... is this a semi-flame?
QuoteAnd while your at it, why don't you learn how to spell? ?And capitalize?
maybe not... but had i said it, i'm sure it would be.
QuoteYou names crock whether you like it or not! lol
don't see the flame there... Although i do seem myself kidding around... hm, i must be the only one on the forums who does that... *looks around*
QuoteIn fact i was just trying to see if Xen could figure it out, i'll assume you still haven't?
Once again.. don't see the flame.
QuoteIs that a quote from Jesus or do you seriously think your god??
WHOA!! I like this one, just like last time when it was a flame NOT to be envious of the guy, now its a flame if he's not JESUS?? my goodness... these forums DO need help.
Anyways, this is why i left the forums in the first place, you're all to ... conservitive. every phrase i can make that is either a tad mean... or can be twisted so that its mean, apparently hurts your ikkle feelings.
bye
OK, John, Peace, shut up or get out of the topic. No personal feuds, or do it by PM.
Well said, Which-ever one of you who said it!
While we're semi- on the topic of nominating mods, may I ask a few questions?
1. Are we allowed to vote for ourselves?
2. Who are the current nominees, besides Wolf Bite and windhounds?
3. Are people allowed to nominate themselves into the race, or do they have to get someone else to nominate them?
4. Will a poll be started to appoint the new mods, or will the administrators appoint the mod of their choice?
3. Will they even appoint new mods at all, for that matter, or is all this debating for naught?
I respectfully ask a moderator, or administrator to answer these questions in a timely manner.
Also, I would like to say that if it came down to it, my vote would definitely fall in with either Checkerpaw or windhounds.
When I posted before in this topic, I did so thinking that it was immaterial because it is up to the Admins/Mods if, when, and who may be asked to help the forum and that everyone had been nominated to be one anyway. It now seems that there is a remote possibility that I may be considered for the position. Therefore I think I should clear up some matters and give a straightforward response to some concerns that the citizens of this community may have.
Q: Have you long dreamed of being on the ?team??
Dr. Wolf: Not at all, actually I had never thought of it until a week ago. I had on the other hand offered and thought of being an in game admin to help spot cheats.
Q: Do you think there is need to expand the ?team??
Dr. Wolf: Yes I do. I believe the present team has good intent and are good people. But the more people you have that are responsible will catch violations sooner and can take better care that this is the proper place it should be so that all may enjoy.
Q: Do you want the job and would you take it?
Dr. Wolf: I don?t really want the job. My feeling would not be hurt not to get it. However, I think that I would be an asset and would happily perform my duties if asked.
Q: You have a forceful personality, would you try to override the other Admins/Mods?
Dr. Wolf: Absolutely not! I have been on several Board of Directors, the ?Board speaks as one.? Once a Board decision has been made, the full Board enforces the Board decisions. It is death to an organization to have the management publicly disagree.
Q: How do you think the forums should be run?
Dr. Wolf: I think there is no need to ever attack the ?person?, only the ideas of the person. Simply, personal insults is bad debate form. Without personal attacks, people are free to express their thoughts and topics stay on topic. But again, this is the decision of the Admins as a whole to keep a consistent team.
Q: Are you Biased?
Dr. Wolf: Far from it. I have read books stacking to over my height when in law school about cases dealing with fairness. Maybe one of the present downfalls is that some people receive more leniency then others. This is a mistake, rules must be followed by all.
Q: Can you enforce the rules?
Dr. Wolf: I have no difficulty listening fairly to information supplied and making the best possible decisions based on that information, then carrying through with the proper response.
Q: Would you misuse the privileges?
Dr. Wolf: No! When I was at war with a clan that I had been given the password to their forum and I knew they were planning against me, I never reentered their forum. It would be unfair. I have tried of being warlike and have turned my hordes to be defensive rather then offence. My morality would have me delete my account, if needed, then create a conflict of duties.
Q: What about having to keep quiet about information you may receive?
Dr. Wolf: Of all people here, this is the easiest for me. I am under a legal confidential restriction where only under certain instances may I speak of information voluntary obtained. My friends here will admit that I have often not responded to information that I knew about the identities of even their friends without the person?s consent.
Q: Any final words?
Dr. Wolf: I would like to repeat that I am not pushing for the job, just willing to faithfully perform it if asked. The decision is with the current Admins and they may make the decision passed on what I said above.
Wolf Bite
For one, I think your experience doesn't count for very much, and your one of the people I'd like to see leave the game.
That is very nice to know. :)
For another, as our experience started with you doing 30 attacks with me and partially ended with me smushling you in the ground, your bound to have a negative thought of me from your experience with me because you attacked me a lot so I smushed you.
As I recall, you attacked me first, and I retaliated. I am not calling you a liar, but I do know for sure that I did not attack you anywhere near 30 times, and I have no idea where you're getting that figure from. Yes, you smushed me, but I had only been playing the game for a couple of weeks. I think you'll find that I've improved a little since then. But I hold no grudge against you.
Awww, 'lil checkerpaw is trying to be the cool kid again. Well there you have it folks, he is the polite one who has a great sense of humer and never hurts anyones feelings. I vote fir checkerpaw! He would make all the mean people go awaysees and we would nevers haves to deals with thems againsees!!!
Nice Gollum accent. This speaks for itself.
Never said i knew you, just said what i've learned from your posts.
I never said that I knew you either; I just was commenting on what I've learned from your posts and actions. And believe me, I've learned quite a bit.
oh... oh wait... is this a semi-flame?
QUOTE
And while your at it, why don't you learn how to spell? And capitalize?
maybe not... but had i said it, i'm sure it would be.
This was in response to your telling me to "learn how to use quotes." I was trying to illustrate a point. Apparantly, you missed it.
Anyway, this'll be my last post in response to both Peace and John. Don't want to tarnish my image and ruin my chances to become a mod!!
;)
Everyone always wants to get the last word in. There is NO last word. You make another post replying to everyone, they're going to reply to you and this stupid post warring will never end.
Can't you see? Don't you understand?
I sure do.
PA says:
Quotebye
next post Burninate says:
QuoteOK, John, Peace, shut up or get out of the topic.
As much as I don't like peace alliance I do see your point manatus.
I'm not spamming. ;)
Now. I vote CP ( <3 ) or Sha.
It is not spamming.
It is me, telling Checkerpaw yet again, for he doesn't seem to get it, to shut up or get out of the topic. Same for you, baska.
We're here to discuss admins/mods, you can do feuds by PM. Click on the little PM button, you know?
I think we should evaluate candidates rather than them giving an intro speech. Something that is claimed by candidates is by definition more worthless than board members (who are biased, of course... :rolleyes:) evaluating them.
Oooh, good idea.
Burninate, I don't appreciate your telling me to "shut up."
Like I said, that is going to be my last message in regards to Peace and John. They can post again concerning that, but I won't. However, I think there are better ways to make your point then telling people to shut up.
(Boy, I'm really starting to sound like I'm trying to act like a mod, aren't I?)
:rolleyes:
Burninate, whichever you are, you need to drop it. You've made your point 15 million times. We get the picture.
And what are the admins saying about our nominations? That's what I want to know!!!
I asked Boze if they were going to appoint mods.He said he didn't know.
Well, Retto confirmed that whoever can shut me up will become an admin.
HEHE.... Christmas holidays and I'm loving every minute of it! I actually have time to do things now, and will be online lots in the next little while.
I noticed that there has been quite a discussion on choosing new mods.
I think I would qualify 100%! :)
(Hint hint....) :lol:
*coughMEcough* :rolleyes:
Who is Burninate, anyways? He is becoming slightly annoying with his constant bickering.....
Kind of iggnorant of you, Wolf Snare.....
oh come on, TROG DOR, mellow out a little, I was having a bit of returning fun. Are you just one of the good players taking on a new account name, or are you new? I must admit, I havent taken an instant liking towards you....
Quoting the famous PA, you should get a sence of humour.
BE HAPPY! :D :D
Quote from: TROG DORWho is Burninate, anyways? He is becoming slightly annoying with his constant bickering.....
Kind of iggnorant of you, Wolf Snare.....
I think it's funny when people insult their alt. accounts. And then respond with their regular account a few minutes later RIGHT AFTER THAT POST
-Vera
AH MAN!! :unsure:
I was having fun..... I had a designated serious poster, then wolf snare, and u ruined me fun!!
I wouldn't have cared except you stole my name idea.... :(
I was bored after I left, so I made an alternate to keep me busy when I did actually have free time......
but I honestly do not wish to continue talking to myself, so how about we get back on topic....?
........................anyway.
I find it amusing when people have more than one account. I'm one of the few people who don't. (which is really quite odd of me, I often make many accounts).
Yo, Burninate, what did I do to you? I mean I've only posted twice on this topic and now I'm getting told to shut up or go away? No thanks,I don't think I will, and if you dont like it you can go away yourself! I've only had 1 other account, the legacy warriors, and I only used that when I couldn't remember this one.
Shut up, baska. ^__^ just kidding...
I find it amusing when people misspell the word "ignorant" when calling other people by said appelation.
baska you make a good point. If people don't like things the way they are, they can leave. Thats democracy's way... right?
hold on, this is a RWL forum, its not a democracy.
Well now I've gone and made myself all confused, would ya look 'a that!
Burninate, I found it highly....odd.....that you only mentioned Peace and I in the first post, and then later add CP as a afterthought...............If CP becomes a mod I'll scream, windhounds is the definite best choice
CP?
short for checkerpaw
Oooh alright. That one was getting me rather confused, yiss...
Hmmm.....Wierd. I try to tell someone to go away, and they tell me I've made a good point? Ya confused me too now Burninate!