So much for a more peaceful round I guess. Was checking the scores today and saw someone had killed Landfarm(Jr.) I would really like to know who the heck did this, and why. Its like 4 days into the round. That was clearly a passive player, 0 attacks, just seems to be making land, which benefits the whole game. This is not cool. I'm glad they remade, but what if they had been a new player and just given up? This is why the game is dying guys.
Neither is in a clan. It was deliberate. I suspect they can generate more land that way since they restart with 200 turns.
More code abuse, I guess. Narrows down the identities involved, anyway.
Not really Shads, the killed wasn't a willing participant :P
Looks like they spent ~60 attacks to do it, not including open attack op.
What a waste of turns.
I donno, maybe Land Farm (Senior) [now Carried by Vacation] was pissed I let Land Farm (Jr.) keep their name (as they're passive this round) and not his?
I requested both change their name to avoid any confusion, but if someone really wants to play passive /shrug.
For grins, maybe instead of blocking the use of the name going forward I'll put in a code snip that if you're named any variation of Land Farm you're not allowed to attack.
Oh, didn't see the open ops. Very strange.
I like the no attack idea
Lmao there was no code abuse attempted. I apologize for the kill. Sevz msged me to finish a kill quickly so I didn't ask questions until after.
Teach the little scout a hard lesson about reserving turns if he's sitting low. They went afk for 15minutes tops. Rotflmfao
Seen them on100acres. Took an espy for 2turns and hit down to 25acres.
Its hilarious get a sense of humor. Happy birthday Sevz
So it's taken a whole of four days for the round to degenerate, nice going...
QuoteTeach the little scout a hard lesson about reserving turns if he's sitting low. They went afk for 15minutes tops. Rotflmfao
Seen them on100acres. Took an espy for 2turns and hit down to 25acres.
Its hilarious get a sense of humor. Happy birthday Sevz
Wow man, seriously, not cool. What if they had quit because of you? The game is small enough as it is, can we really afford to drive away potential new players? Maybe next time, instead of killing them, send a message about keeping their land higher?
Who was it then? I assumed it was a bot that windy had coded in this round. We had positive feedback and an increase in active players when we sacrificed 1/3rd of our turns last set to creating land. As stated I didn't mean to kill a new player. I actually send aid to newbs I notice. Hell I sent some of your backup members aid as they attempted to come to your rescue last round, Volkov.
I admit sevz humour is a tad extreme, but don't lose any more sleep over this incident. God knows you need to catch up on rest from the last half of March. ;)
QuoteWho was it then? I assumed it was a bot that windy had coded in this round. We had positive feedback and an increase in active players when we sacrificed 1/3rd of our turns last set to creating land. As stated I didn't mean to kill a new player. I actually send aid to newbs I notice. Hell I sent some of your backup members aid as they attempted to come to your rescue last round, Volkov.
I admit sevz humour is a tad extreme, but don't lose any more sleep over this incident. God knows you need to catch up on rest from the last half of March.
They don't want to say who they are, but the fact that I am in communication with them says they are not a bot, which given their activity pattern should have been obvious. Just try not to kill anyone else for giggles, and I'll leave it alone. As for my sleep, dunno what you're talking about, you guys were the ones who were up to all hours that last half of March, I slept pretty well to be honest.
Wow, you guys sure are bloodthirsty this round. Looks like you bit off more than you could chew with This is What a Fox Says though. I don't understand this sudden kill fest. Leftover frustration from the previous round?
*Wookie Sounds*
Maybe they shouldn't have tried to sully None's good name by adding an unnecessary underscore (which was later changed to a period) :P
Pretty feeble stuff. ???
Quote from: Firetooth on April 10, 2018, 04:08:46 PM
Pretty feeble stuff. ???
I repeat. Why on earth are you guys wasting multiple runs to kill a team indy that can bounce back in a run? It's like you literally just enjoy being disliked and the atmosphere in-game utterly toxic. It's not like there was anything to initiate this conflict even. Just straight out the bat camping online when you know nobody else will be online and running kill runs....
You are a vermin warlord, with one purpose: to conquer all!
::) :o :D ;)
Warlords killing warlords sounds incredibly toxic. Bwuahaha
Sure an Indy can bounce back in a single run but I kill for fun. They were using unlimited aid and no defense while the rest of the server is unclanned. It was a public service when ya think about it.
Being in a clan is low risk high reward.
The alternative was to waste multiple runs breaking volkov and all his free troops?
You can get revenge, you can be a sore loser or you can adapt.
On a side note, why do you always cry about it?
I'm over here kicking puppies while you're over there licking windows and watching in horror.
How is being clanned "low risk?" Sure you can produce tonnes but it opens you up completely to takedowns and kills.
And also, plenty of people don't have as much time for this game as you, disl and snare seem to. Conflict out of the gate is v time consuming. And how can you compete when the opposition runs guerilla tactics and runs kill runs outside your time zone? It'd be worth the hassle if it was clan v clan, but you guys don't have it in you to put anything on the line like that.
Last round, all I wanted was a somewhat fair fight, and you guys abused every mechanic and unfair advantage to get an edge. It's tiring to play against. And straight out of the gate you want to relive last rounds conflict. I miss the days when diplomacy was actually important, and it wasn't just the same teams doing the same things over and over like a groundhog Day scenario.
Also, I am neutral in game for the record. But this has really irritated me because it's so classless.
"Diplomacy"... you mean like:
-Receive unprovoked sacks
-Message clan leader to try to resolve things, receive bs excuses
-Sacks increase
-More messages
-Even more sacks
-Realize talk is going to be useless and go to battle
-Opposition wonders why we didn't give them the courtesy of fighting them the way they wanted us to after forcing us to waste our time fighting them ::)
We were fine peacefully netting and you guys forced us into war last set. It seems you guys don't like the favor being returned.
Ahem...See my signature below.
Sacks are not an act of war around here.
And to quote our patron Author Brian Jacques: "There is no greater evil than killing. I don't care if they call it war or justice. Life is precious."
A) Not what happened. There was never a genuine effort from your side to actually talk things out. We didn't "force you into a war", you already wanted it, probably because you realized there was no way you were going to win the set if you let us going on building net the way we were. I don't have the message logs anymore, because new round, but at least half the messages I sent Disl/Ryu went unanswered, including the ones where I directly offered to pay back whatever had been sacked off you guys. I tried a bunch of times to defuse the situation, and was ignored every time, the only messages I got from you guys were long screeds complaining about sacks, and literally no answer to any of what I proposed to resolve it, until I finally got fed up with the BS and called Disl/Ryu out on it. So no, we didn't force you guys into jack squat, and as for how you fought the war, well if you want to abuse every aspect of the game code right up to the very limit of the rules, that's no skin off my nose, but that doesn't mean we aren't going to call you out on it, and its going to put you under more scrutiny from the admins than if you played more within the rules.
B) As for this round, how do you even know its "us guys" that you are even killing?
C) Sacks are pretty far freaking cry from kills.
D) Generally speaking here at RWL, the way it works is that whatever happened last round is in the past. New round, clean slate, no grudges held. Maybe you don't know that because you are new to RWL, but that's how its, ideally, supposed to work. So if you guys are doing these kills over some grudge held-over from the last set, cut that crap out. None of the people who have died this set have done a thing to any of you. One was a passive player, literally zero attacks! To be honest I appreciate Sevz's honesty more than this weaselly excuse for your behavior this round. Sevz may be a jerk, but at least he's an honest jerk.
FYI. Shoot hasn't been involved in the kills at all. Volkov you owe the man an apology.
I'm not too bothered about killing for now cos the emperor.
Volk n Sharpy is the only exception.
The kill was a direct result of onlining me halfway through a run. I hope it was worth starting over.
Quote from: Sevz on April 13, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
I'm not too bothered about killing for now cos the emperor.
Volk n Sharpy is the only exception.
Can you please explain why? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just genuinely curious about what I've done to deserve this status in your eyes.
Quote from: Wolf Snare on April 14, 2018, 06:44:24 AM
The kill was a direct result of onlining me halfway through a run. I hope it was worth starting over.
Maybe my memory is wrong here as none of this directly concerns me, but didn't you kill Volkov first? ??? ??? ???
I repeat again: feeble stuff and feebler still are the excuses. This crap is why most people do not invest the time and effort into this site anymore.
Quote from: Firetooth on April 14, 2018, 08:46:17 AM
Quote from: Wolf Snare on April 14, 2018, 06:44:24 AM
The kill was a direct result of onlining me halfway through a run. I hope it was worth starting over.
Maybe my memory is wrong here as none of this directly concerns me, but didn't you kill Volkov first? ??? ??? ???
I repeat again: feeble stuff and feebler still are the excuses. This crap is why most people do not invest the time and effort into this site anymore.
I hadn't bothered addressing this as to me, there doesn't seem to be much point attempting diplomacy anymore.
Yes, the onlining and standards were retaliation for your failed kill run on Volk. Which, as far as I'm concerned, was completely unprovoked.
From my perspective, you fired the first rounds here.
Onlining is a dirty tactic, but you made extensive use of it last round, multiple times and indiscriminately. Even when we tried to be diplomatic about it (I would happily have come to an agreement where we didn't sack and you didn't online) you just rebuffed any attempts made are diplomacy.
Volk is right though, we should leave last round in the past. Maybe we can actually discuss this diplomatically and come to some kind of arrangement where we're not killing and onlining one another?
Quote from: SevzFYI. Shoot hasn't been involved in the kills at all. Volkov you owe the man an apology.
His reply made it sound as if he was involved in some way. Don't see how I owe him an apology for making a pretty obvious inference.
QuoteThe kill was a direct result of onlining me halfway through a run. I hope it was worth starting over.
Since the cat seems to be out of the bag regarding who I am, what's the excuse for the failed kill on me then?
Shoot is an evil doot man. I heard he catfishes other players then blackmails them into sending him all their money.
How else would you explain the 6 BILLION NW LAST ROUND :o
Quote from: Sharptooh on April 14, 2018, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Sevz on April 13, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
I'm not too bothered about killing for now cos the emperor.
Volk n Sharpy is the only exception.
Can you please explain why? I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just genuinely curious about what I've done to deserve this status in your eyes.
I was just joking Sharpy. You've never liked me so its fun to poke at you for my own reasons. I remember a few years ago when I wanted to end the grudge. I begged you to fight me one on one so I could show you how good I am at this game and gain your respect on the battlefield.
You don't have to like me but one reason you deserve to occasionally die? is all the immortalized forums that I won and you insulted my victories. At least 20 of my wins you jumped on the immortal forums and tried saying I didn't deserve to finish in first place yada yada. I worked hard and played it smart to earn those wins. Created very technical complicated strategies. Degrading my accomplishments and saying I'm a poor player when the truth is you were being a sore loser.
I don't expect a hater to say sorry or form new opinions but since you asked politely I'll take the time to explain on an intellectual level.
The way you've disrespected me over the years is mostly unfair from my eyes. You haven't given credit when credit is due so I honestly don't value your opinions. However, I do understand them and where they come from. All you ever had to do was say nice win and I would have started being very respectful towards you. I could have changed our circumstances.
We haven't been on a team for you to see how effectively I play and I haven't done anything to make you like me. I've given you reasons to hate me and I'm happy to admit it. Our rivalry is mostly my fault.
The difference is that my grudge is roleplay. If you ever wanted to be on the same team I'd absolutely make sure you win the round, Id let see the magic behind the curtains.
I could show you plenty of reasons to respect me as a player but until I do I don't blame you for your stance on the other side of the fence.
To me its all fun and games. This whole round I stayed in a clan and didn't build a city. If you killed me I would have laughed in real life but over the internet shown total rage and acted like this is an epic war.
Right, it's confusing because you say you're joking when you dislike me, then proceed to list the number of reasons you dislike me.
It's hard to tell jokes over the medium of text at the best of times, but I feel even more confused right now.
In terms of previous immorts etc. I forget the precise details regarding them all (and you do have to remember, in most of them I was probably a teenager). If you played using what I would consider dirty tactics, like last round for example, I think I'd probably have called you out on them. That said, there have definitely been times when you've won cleanly and deserve appreciation, so if in those instances I've insulted you, I do apologise.
I'll of course admit that you're a skilled player Sevah, more so than me I expect (I think most of the active players at the moment are probably better than me), but there is more to this game than skill in terms of net generation/destruction per turn.
You complain that we've been hassling you all round and making it harder for you to break the emp? Well, if you'd been more diplomatic and not killed two of us (with a third attempted kill) early in the round, completely unprovoked, then things might be different. Strategy also comes into play. Personally I don't think your strategy of leader attacking the emp is going to work, and I'd be very surprised if come the immort, the emp doesn't have (by far) the highest leader count.
We weren't expecting the emperor to have this many leaders. We've killed 1.7billion networth of leaders.
I'm hoping that there's only 289m net left to kill. It means real close.
Like I said. At the start of the round I was killing for fun. Starting a big war because there was no theme.
As soon as the emperor was created I was hoping we could all come together as a community. We usually have two teams that don't sabotage each other and race for the takedown. It would have been awesome to all unite.
I think it's kinda funny that you continuously underestimate windy's knowledge of the game code. Of course the emp has a butt-ton of leaders. Windy knows all about how leader takedowns work, he has direct access to the code that governs them for Pete's sake. The emp is supposed to be broken with troops, so windy made it impossible to break with leaders.
As for the community coming together, that's something you actually have to work at, you can't just create a bunch of bad blood between players and then say "Ok time to work together now". Maybe you think because that's how it worked in RTR, that's how it would work this time, but what you don't know us all the behind the scenes negotiations that went on to get wolf bite and I to call off the war and agree to work toget her to break the badger emp instead. None of that happened here, so of course the players who you killed earlier in the round are still a tad peeved with you.
Yep, historically emps have had an unreasonable amount of leaders because they don't ever run and repair, and an emp open to leader attacks will quickly fall.
This round you guys had a couple months to suicide, so Lask got a few extra leaders.
atm Lask has 722 defenses.. That's actually a fairly impressive waste of turns.
I'd think someone with a decent ratio could get an espi now.