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Dynamic Market
« on: October 05, 2018, 09:56:04 AM »

The new market is here! Prices are now determined by supply and demand - the more stuff there is on the market, the lower the prices, and vice versa. Over time, slowly, the market price will revert to the mean.

I had to tweak the merc prices a bit to make it work. My hope is that this will make indies a little more likely to actually use the market as a market. We will see.

On the public market page there are now little arrows indicating in which direction the price will trend, unless someone buys/sells some more stuff, which will cause an instant price change.

When you buy stuff, you get the quoted price for your whole order. So basically, you are rewarded for buying in bulk.

It is possible to manipulate prices. If you sell a bunch of stuff, the price crashes, and you can buy back cheaply. I haven't yet decided if this is a bug or a feature, and it may change during the round.

Please test it out, and tell me if you have questions/comments/bug reports. I'll be playing, but mostly I will only buy/sell stuff and make pirate noises.
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2018, 04:54:06 PM »

This is an excellent change. I love new ideas. As a wolf I'll be strictly buying from the market.

My only issue is the food prices. I stored about 800m food for $13 and now it is all $17 each. Yuck.
Can you put brackets in? $11-$15 would be sufficient
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2018, 05:13:29 PM »

It is capped. The prices will go down as more people enter the market. Just be patient. It goes quite low, when the market gets flooded.
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 06:32:55 PM »

Food prices just tanked, get it while it's cheap

I set it to take about 2-3 days to revert to the mean, assuming nobody buys or sells more in the meantime
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2018, 10:08:05 AM »

This thing is freaking awesome. I use and check the market so much more often now, when there's a bargain I buy. I feel like it's truly a real market instead of just a storage area for extra nw. Sometimes the prices dip or rise super fast, but wow! How cool!!!
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 11:30:37 AM »

Glad to hear it

Seems like minimum food price might be a bit low, though, it seems to be hard to keep any volume on the market at all ^_^. Could also be the initial amount that needs tuning.
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Re: Dynamic Market
« Reply #6 on: Today at 11:41:49 AM »

I happen to question the efficacy of this market as it can be very easily manipulated to benefit clans. You can drop or raise prices with several small purchases or sales, and I've already noticed it's possible to have an unfair advantage if done correctly. This will also destroy the server if someone were to decide to lock again like last round.. there will be no way to mass stack against an emperor. Any way to minimize fluctuation over shorter periods of time?

Edit: My news feed is full of micro purchases such as this
Time   Event
6.4 hours ago   You sold 187,500 Skiffs on the market for $413,268,750
6.4 hours ago   You sold 1,200,000 Rats on the market for $480,600,000
6.4 hours ago   You sold 375,000 Stoats on the market for $468,787,500
6.4 hours ago   You sold 138,750 Stoats on the market for $173,451,375
6.4 hours ago   You sold 21,808 Stoats on the market for $27,262,181
6.4 hours ago   You sold 4,175 Stoats on the market for $5,219,168
6.5 hours ago   You sold 12,500 Stoats on the market for $15,603,750
1 days, 2.2 hours ago   

Daily prices are being driven in the direction that benefits the person manipulating the system in place. If you would like I will demonstrate how easy this currently is.

This adds another dynamic to our strategy game, though I'm not sure if that was your intention.
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