Redwall: Warlords

Discussion => Strategy => Topic started by: wolf bite on October 18, 2003, 01:41:55 AM

Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 18, 2003, 01:41:55 AM
 It is finally here, but there is much work left to do.  There is a lot here, best to read the whole thing without skipping around because a lot of stuff is in differant places. 

Thanks Holby for all the work you did.

Edit: this link is now working:

www.redwallwarlords.com


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on October 18, 2003, 03:13:09 AM
 http://home.graffiti.net/tr_julie:graffiti.net/

Slide this up there ^
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: fingo on October 18, 2003, 04:38:55 AM
 No wonder it toke along time to write, it's 31 pages on word.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Veranor on October 18, 2003, 06:09:56 AM
 Very, very nice. Thank you a lot.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Lady Shael on October 18, 2003, 06:23:41 AM
 *reads* That's very well done...I hope you don't mind me pinning this in the Strat forum....
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on October 18, 2003, 06:28:20 AM
 I do. It deserves a heap of recognition, and will be seen more in GD. The Strategy forum isn't used very much.
It also contains more than just strategies. Maybe you could pin it GD.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Checkerpaw on October 18, 2003, 06:38:02 AM
 Wow, Wolf Bite, that is an impressive piece of work.  You seem to have completely mastered this game.
 
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Lady Shael on October 18, 2003, 07:04:57 AM
 I can't make duplicates of topics, but it still is in GD. *points to the pinned version in the Discussion forum*
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on October 18, 2003, 07:09:37 AM
 *Beams* Coolnessness, thank ya.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 18, 2003, 08:19:49 AM
 Hehe, thanks guys.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Blood Wake on October 18, 2003, 09:50:53 AM
 he gave me a copy when it was only 17 pagesand it was filled with a lot of info, but now look at it!
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: bjornredtail on October 18, 2003, 02:30:14 PM
 Some very useful information in there.... Ideas that even I haven't thought of before. Though I do disagree with much of the advice ("It's better to cause real harm to horde rather than annoy them" But if you cause real dammage you stand a much higher chance of makeing a hostile out of them).
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 18, 2003, 03:16:47 PM
 Above that under "words" I say not to make enemies.  But if the person just has it in for you, then you are best to cause real and long lasting harm.  Such as the Solo guy that I have been nicely trying to talk out of attacking me for 4 days, he is rank 60 now after 80 murder and posions.

He would be wise if he gained some knowladge, but either way, he will think a bit more before causing me to waste my turns on him again.  

So, I did my best not to fight nor make an enemy, but when all else fails ... slaughter them.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on October 18, 2003, 03:59:46 PM
 I'm glad when i'm 40, I'm not gonna be writing 100 page long guides to text based online games.

[edit] err... Not that that was directed towards anybody...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Kilkenne on October 18, 2003, 04:02:31 PM
 In your playing style, 80 attacks on one person is brutal, and he has every right to gain a following of sympesizers (Can't spell today) and complain to everyone in the forums about it. 80 on one person is more than 211 spread out between 4 people. Think about it. You just contradicted yourself.

(Sorry for sounding bitter, but I had to point that out)
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 18, 2003, 04:39:57 PM
 No I did not, in another post he chalanged me.  He started a clan called "Kill Wolf Bite."  Then over the last 4 days has attacked me 60 times, never beaking me.  I asked him to stop, asked the forum to ask him to stop. He would not.  He demanded I give up the emperorship.  I dropped down to rank 17 for someone I could distroy, still he attacked me.  I spent 4 days useing me turns to keep my leader ratio up.  There is a point that I just can't spend my days keeping my defence up against some guy 20 rank below me that is warring away my armies.  So I made him stop by taking his ablity from him.  

I don't see anything else I could have done.  If you think about it, 2 times retal would be 120 attacks.  

You should know if anyone should, during your attacks on Loren started attacking me when I was on line.  I mailed you to find out if my clan was a target.  We made peace and I never retaled on you for your 5 attacks.

I don't see any contradiction.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on October 18, 2003, 05:23:45 PM
 I feel stupid because that post made NO sense...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Kilkenne on October 18, 2003, 06:28:36 PM
 But your point was that no one should be attacked that much. Period. Even in retaliation. I got attacked by Blood Wake 20 times...That chinks off 40 of mine. I'm sure Peace Alliance has taken more than his share of hits, and that makes up for the rest if you're doing the 2x rule.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: bjornredtail on October 18, 2003, 10:46:19 PM
 Well, in retal that sort of action makes some sence. I personally retal until I recover enomnically.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Mark on October 19, 2003, 10:26:39 AM
 I just don't know what to say, your work is just soo admirable.  I'll find your journal very useful with playing...thankx, Wolf Bite!
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Ashyra Nightwing on October 20, 2003, 08:39:08 AM
 Wow. That's amazing, Wolf Bite...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 21, 2003, 09:28:01 AM
 62 hits so far, not bad.  Okay, a few have been Holby and me testing the link.  But still not bad.  Is this helpful to you guys?


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Riverpaw on October 21, 2003, 01:53:50 PM
 Hits? Okay, refresh a bit... (Or maybe that was stupid...)
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on October 21, 2003, 04:08:36 PM
 It was long and pointless.

With the expansion coming out *checks* soon... and a whole new aspect being added to the game, who knows if it will have any value at all.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Riverpaw on October 21, 2003, 06:56:23 PM
 Peace, I almost mistook you for Wolf. What's with the avatar? What is it between you two? First the wolf in duct tape and now this...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 21, 2003, 08:11:37 PM
 Oh, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.   He has been posting insults to me under every one of my posts for over a month.  His intent is to change every topic to his dislike for me because I will not talk to him on AIM any more.  For some reason the Mods have not seen it to be flam and put a stop to it.  I should start a topic just for him to wage pointless insults at me called ?Wolf Envy.?  Hehe.  I really am not fazed by it, just sorry for the forum to have to deal with it.  So, back to the real topic ?.


Wolf Bite
 
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on October 21, 2003, 10:17:23 PM
 Everyone i know thinks its hilarious!

And don't try and make it sound like what i'm doing is uncalled for and unprovoked. Everyone has seen the stuff you've said about me.

Theres nothing to MOD 'cause when i flame its not direct so they can't exactly call it a flame... Plus... I don't do it on purpose...  <_<  >_> yes thats right...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Ashyra Nightwing on October 22, 2003, 08:26:30 AM
 *snerk*

Yess,  'tis useful, Wolf Bite.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Riverpaw on October 22, 2003, 12:38:25 PM
Quote from: Ashyra Nightwing
*snerk*
Definition... please...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Checkerpaw on October 22, 2003, 12:42:02 PM
 A half sneer, half smirk?
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: ~>John<~ on October 23, 2003, 11:25:30 AM
 theres going to be something to contradict leaders, making almost all of that ^ useless.....I'm almost thinking there might be a type of guard towers for leaders *dies* NO! YOU CAN NOT TAKE AWAY MY ESPIONAGE! Just thought I'd say that, if they do I'll just have to split my land up differently......which is bad because if it's a sturcture, where normally I'd be [with 10,000 land, say]

3k barracks
2khuts
3k markets
1k foragers.

I'd have to make huts less.....note that when I get more land it all goes into huts, mostly
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on October 23, 2003, 12:31:41 PM
 As of now, there is no buildings to stop leaders.  However, I have recommended such an idea to stop low ranked multi accounts from taking down anyone with the war option.  

BAX just has more and better ways to do things, so most of my journal will work.  


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Well Actually I Do Have a on October 26, 2003, 09:34:41 AM
 !Whew!
For a second there I was worried those thirty-one pages would be completely useless.

It's a lovelyed good thing they're not, seeing as I printed them out onto real nice paper, sent them to a book company, and had it bound.

I carry it around with me everywhere now, under my pillow, inside my school binder. I even had an extra copy made for my apartment. I showed my 42 year old dad the other day, and he was completely baffled as to how someone could have that much time!

Wow! Thanks Wolf Bite!

Edit: Forumgoers may experience a fatal case of "Wolf Envy" upon reading. Friends, fresh air, and medical help is advised. Symptoms may include red eyes, obsession with troop numbers, and inordinate amounts of calculators. See friend immideatly if you experience any of the above.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Riverpaw on October 26, 2003, 12:44:59 PM
  :suspicious:
Hm... Now, who could that be??  :lol:  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Burninate on December 11, 2003, 09:27:54 PM
 Le Merc.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on December 23, 2003, 09:47:06 AM
 I know that when I posted my journal, I promised to update it and repair several mistakes on the numbers and percentages that I did not have handy at the time that I wrote it.  However, I have not spent the time to do so and don't think that people that have read it will come back to check for changes anyways.  I am happy that we have had over 170 hits on the site and several new people have told me that it has given them ideas and better understanding of the game.

Recently my ?team? made a ?last ditch effort? that was successful in taking down an emperor.  Many have asked how it was done.  I would not say at the time because it would have given away the present weaknesses of those in the team.  Now that time has past and they have repaired their hordes for the damage done, I feel I can let the community know what we did and add this page to the journal.

After ruling out that all plans submitted to me and all plans of the past would not work in the situation that existed, we did perhaps the most insane plan ever.  This is long and complicated, but luckily worked.

Problem:

A single person has taken the all the major land, has a good leader ratio that can?t even be spied, he is not in a clan so a joint attack will not work, and he has more army then anyone can break.  The teammates of the emperor have no land to take so we have no land to build off.  We are beaten because our resources have been diminished by suicide attacks by the opposing team.

On The Backs Of Friends

Six or more people with mostly full turns are found and the person with a leader ratio what will not allow him to be murdered is chosen as the ?Attacker.?  All are on line at the same time.  A ?breaking? army type is picked based on the final ?target.? (In this case stoats.)  The team is organized by the amount of turns they have and the lowest in turns is #1 and the highest number represents those with full turns, then the final person is the Attacker as picked by ratio.

Player #1 is sent sufficient rats to make a run.  All the rest sell all their armies except for stoats.  Everyone goes to manage horde and turns their production to 100% stoats.  #1 starts attacking anyone he can with rats for a fast land grab from wherever he can.  He builds mostly barracks and just enough markets and foragers to feed his troops.  As he heals between attacks, he takes down his huts and towers completely and turns them into barracks.  All the time he is building stoats.  He builds no towers, no huts.  #1 stops when he has 40 turns left.  At this point he will have a fair amount of land, no towers, no huts, no leaders, but a lot of stoats.  He then sends what stoats, money, and food he has to player #2

#2 even with a poor leader ratio will be able to attack #1 because #1 has NO leader defense.  #2 makes 21 leader land attacks on #1 and gains 60% of all the land #1 worked so hard to get.  When #2 heals, he also builds all barracks and only the needed markets and foragers, he also slowly takes down his huts and towers.  #2 has used 84 turns and now has much more land, the stoats and goods sent to him from #1 and has been making stoats from the use of that land easily gained.  But most important is that #2 has 370 turns to use.  He starts attack wherever he can find more land with his stoats for about 100 turns, he does not max out any of the enemy because the other players will need some weakened targets.  Then sends all his stoats to the Attacker.  #2 has 270 turns left. He uses his turns making more stoats and sending them to the Attacker when they get too expensive to keep. He too stops at 40 turns left.

#3, #4, #5 do the same as player #2 did. Leader attack the person before them foe fast build able land, drop towers and huts, Send all stoats to the Attacker.

Even as each of the other players are taking their turn, the players that have played are sending aid to the attacker as the game allows.

After all players have taken their turns, besides the Attacker, this is what is left.  Players #1 through #4 are wiped out in land and resources but have 40 turns left.  Player #5 has a lot of land but little else, and 40 turns.  The Attacker has a massive amount of aid in money, food, stoats sent from all the land being used over again by each of the players, and full turns.

The Attacker tries a Stoat attack on the Target, if he breaks then he continues to take the 21 allowed turns, which will net him 60% of the targets land.  If he fails, then he takes the land of #5 and hopes to build the required army to break.  If he can't break, all is lost.

Assuming he does break the target, he has used about 200 turns attacking and has 250 left.  During the Attacker?s turns, he has built only huts and his leader ratio is climbing.  When the Target is maxed, he sends his army food and cash to this team in the way of aid.  Although he will not be able to send away all his stoats, he will have 60% of the target?s land, no other army, and lots of huts full of leaders and 230 turns left.  He then uses propaganda for 130 turns leaving him 100 turns and nearly 80% leader ratio.

Players #1 through #5 each buy 100 rats, then take turns attacking the defenseless Attacker with rats taking his land.  They also if needed attack each other to even out the land.  At this point, #1 through #5 have no turns, no huts, but their shear of the targets land and a lot of stoats.  They will be attacked for their land but even losing much, they will have more then they had before and when they get turns, have the stoat armies to gain more.

The Attacker has given most of his land to the team, but with the high leader ratio he had and his friends taking 60% of his land, he now has much more land then he had and a 175% leader ratio, and 100 turns, and is maxed out.  This is a deadly combination.

The Target has lost 60% of his land. He has a good leader ratio but his ratio will drop as he takes turns because of the loss of land/huts.  He can?t attack the Attacker because the Attacker is maxed.  His once land is spread out so it will take a lot of turns to try to regain it and each of the players are only 10 turns from being maxed.  So he does the only opinion and tries to regain his land but there is no way for him to get enough and a better ratio then the Attacker..

The Attack murders and poisons the Target every time he tries to make a move, thus wiping out the resources of the Target.  The players wait and will be attacked until they have full turns again.  When the Attacker has extra turns, he makes money and sends it to the players when they are ready to take turns again.  The players will have the money, stoats, and what is left of their land to regain more land and rebuild towers and huts as needed.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Juska on December 23, 2003, 10:25:32 AM
 Is there a way to counter that?
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Dixie Ros? on December 23, 2003, 10:29:07 AM
 Wow, you're really skilled...*just stares*
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on December 23, 2003, 10:56:53 AM
Quote from: Juska
Is there a way to counter that?
There are some sticky parts in the set up.  You must pick your team wisely, if one pretended to be part of the plan and built towers and huts to defend his land, he would have the benefit of everyone?s work.  Also you must hope that your players can mass enough army to make the break.  When we did this, we ended with 23 million stoats.  Hehe.

If the target or his allies is not on line there is no defense.  When we did this, the Target did come on line.  But there was no way for him to see it coming.  Surly he was the team all on line at the same time.  He saw the Attackers net worth swelling, but the Leader ratio of the Attacker made no way for him to murder the armies.  No attacks had been made on him, so he would think it had not started yet.  Looking more carefully, he could see the land changing between people that were allied with each other. Then would be checking the news to see if he cold figure out what was being done.  This is a few weeks after the attack, and until now, no one knew what we did, so the odds of seeing it is slim.  When he was attacked, it was so swift that the land was spread out before he knew he was attacked.

Had he either been told of the plan or saw it coming, him or his ally could have used leaders to weaken the player that was taking their turn and the Target could have bought out his mercs in hope.  But if this is done right, the proceeds are so great that any defense most likely would not have worked.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Aqualis on December 23, 2003, 12:09:39 PM
 Ahhhh ... so that's what happened to all my land. Interesting.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Riverpaw on February 02, 2004, 06:41:53 PM
 Er... It refuses to open...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on February 04, 2004, 06:50:19 PM
 It opened for me.


http://holbyredwall.net/wolf_bite.htm


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Lord Nightstripe on February 13, 2004, 06:54:50 PM
 I cannot get it.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Nohcnonk on February 13, 2004, 07:28:08 PM
 Doesn't work!
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on February 13, 2004, 09:22:50 PM
 Strange, did not work for me this time.  I think my contract with the Holby Publishing House may have ended, I will look into it.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Weasel Liberation Mov on February 13, 2004, 09:24:24 PM
 I mentioned this to Holbs a few days ago...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on February 13, 2004, 11:19:09 PM
 Here, try this, Holby moved it:


http://holbyredwall.holbrookau.com/wolf_bite.htm


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on February 14, 2004, 04:30:52 AM
 hee, thanks, was just about to post that.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Weasel Liberation Mov on February 14, 2004, 07:42:55 AM
 Yay!



Wanted to look at it the other day. Can't remember why now!  :D  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Kamino Kadens on March 04, 2004, 06:12:48 PM
 this jornel is hard to read because i dont know how to put leaders in huts and what does X mean

javascript:emoticon(':angry:')


the stoat race is confuzing somebody tell me what it meanss in lamins terms and how do you get 100,000 land that seems imposible(':blink:')


whoes going to commander server on friday  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on March 04, 2004, 06:24:32 PM
 Okay, to respond to both your email and what you just wrote, most of your questions have been addressed. here is what to do.  When in the Strategy Forum, there is a drop down at the bottom that can show you all the stuff from the past. change it to "from the begaining" and you can read what everyone thinks about the differant strats and how to do just about everything.

As far as what is the best, it depends on how you play. Differant things work differantly for differant people, I have used just about every stratagy and have found good to all of them.  Do some reading and if you can't find a topic on somthing form the past, start one.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Kamino Kadens on March 04, 2004, 06:28:35 PM
 i new you would say that
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Nohcnonk on August 23, 2004, 07:12:59 PM
 Um, Holby's link doesn't work anymore...
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on September 01, 2004, 01:05:20 AM
 http://home.graffiti.net/tr_julie:graffiti.net/
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on September 01, 2004, 05:18:40 AM
 Thanks Holby.

*updates first post to show this link*


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Orcrist on September 01, 2004, 05:19:27 PM
 Kamino Kadens- answering your question about 100,000 land- a while ago, land was much more common- the average person in the top 10 had at least 100,000 land (the top person sometimes had as much as 250,000-300,000 land!).
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Wolf Snare on September 02, 2004, 12:41:54 AM
 hehe. I can't ever remember land being /that/ fluent. Meh, I am pretty new.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Ashaman on September 02, 2004, 06:53:40 AM
 Wow, I just read thru the journal and I can't believe some of the strategies in there were even mentioned as a viable option.

1. Filling other empire with useless hits to run up the hit limit protection.
I don't know the general census of this server but everywhere I go, that kinda strategy is highly disrespected and would earn you shame for the rest of your prom career at that server.  It is the single most disgusting strategy ever used and it is usually not even mention so new players wouldn't even want to think about using such a strat.  I'm not sure if it's ever been used here and how people react to such a strat.
2. Join a clan to take advantage of war setting, then detag after to take advantage of hit limit.
This strat will also earn you a really heavy black mark if you use such a strat at other servers.  What respect you had, you will surely lose most of it by doing such a strat.  People will call you name like pansy, coward, etc...if you ever use this type of strat.  Is this strategy acceptable here at this server?
3. Weakening Leaders with suicide magic attacks
Is this also acceptable here?  On some server, admins will actually disable your empire for the duration of the set or even ban you from playing if you resort to such a strat.  

I'm just posting this to see what the general public of this server think about those 3 mentioned strategies and if they are acceptable form of strategy to use here.
 
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Morzan on September 02, 2004, 07:59:57 AM
 Oh no, I believe many of our better players look at these stats as dishonorable strats. But we have a saying at RWL.

"This is redwall WARLORDS" The object is to do anything you can to get to the top. You can do whatever it takes except cheating to win.  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Ashaman on September 02, 2004, 08:47:28 AM
 Umm, how fun would this game be if no one can attack an empire that has the most land because that empire is constantly being hit with useless attacks from his friends to fill up his limit?  I guess you all can just sit there and stare and can't do a thing about it.  That's probably really fun eh?
 
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Lady Shael on September 02, 2004, 09:30:18 AM
 Live with it. Most warlords don't have honor. It's part of the game. Live with it, and play just as dirty when you get your chance.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Ashaman on September 02, 2004, 09:35:04 AM
 Cool, I guess it's time to exploit all the holes.
 
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Morzan on September 02, 2004, 09:35:59 AM
 Yea, I am considered one of the best spies in the game, and a big tratior and spy. Look at my signature, the latin part. If you put it in English...well you can do it yourself. You can win this game by army, deception, diplomacy, anything. Most of our best plays have done something dishonorable once or twice.  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: RazorClaw on September 02, 2004, 10:58:43 AM
 Ashaman, an honorable warlord is a dead warlord. Heh, throw everything except you, your clan, and your post-count in the toilet so long as it get you a good rank... (obviously joking on the post-count part)
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Guthorm Swordmaster on September 03, 2004, 01:36:09 PM
 If your saying that you've been a spy before morzan why are you kicking up a fuss because i spyed on Sworn.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Juska on September 03, 2004, 02:36:52 PM
 I knew I smelled a rat the first a say you. Remember you wouldn't attack Blades and I called you a traitor, lol. Too bad Juby stood up for u.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Veranor on September 03, 2004, 04:18:05 PM
 
Quote from: Guthorm Swordmaster
If your saying that you've been a spy before morzan why are you kicking up a fuss because i spyed on Sworn.
What kind of question is that? Let me give you an example: suppose you have a terrible habit of kicking people right in the gut every time you see them, and then some random person you've never kicked kicks you. Won't you still be hurt. Obviously he should have expected such a thing as a possibility  but,
 1) it's not a "he had it coming" because he never spied against you (afaik) and
 2) That was then this is now.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: windhound on September 03, 2004, 04:29:59 PM
 Ashaman, here two of the most discusting things you can do is poisen and murder   ;)  you've commited both..  on me..  =P

ah well..  yip..  strats are strats, however fouly they may be looked upon by others...

and what does a dark mark matter?  Peace is just one big black blob, but he still holds my resepct ^_^
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Orcrist on September 03, 2004, 06:46:05 PM
 Yup- the idea is to get on the side of the people who are doing the backstabbing...or else you'll get backstabbed.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Juska on September 04, 2004, 06:23:25 AM
 I think capture and sacking are up their windy.

I just can't get enough of this, lol. Everyone is threatening Ash, lol.  ROTFLMAO!!!

This will be you guys after he's done:  ::help!::  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Nohcnonk on September 04, 2004, 08:45:45 AM
 
Quote from: Ashaman
Wow, I just read thru the journal and I can't believe some of the strategies in there were even mentioned as a viable option.

1. Filling other empire with useless hits to run up the hit limit protection.
I don't know the general census of this server but everywhere I go, that kinda strategy is highly disrespected and would earn you shame for the rest of your prom career at that server.  It is the single most disgusting strategy ever used and it is usually not even mention so new players wouldn't even want to think about using such a strat.  I'm not sure if it's ever been used here and how people react to such a strat.
2. Join a clan to take advantage of war setting, then detag after to take advantage of hit limit.
This strat will also earn you a really heavy black mark if you use such a strat at other servers.  What respect you had, you will surely lose most of it by doing such a strat.  People will call you name like pansy, coward, etc...if you ever use this type of strat.  Is this strategy acceptable here at this server?
3. Weakening Leaders with suicide magic attacks
Is this also acceptable here?  On some server, admins will actually disable your empire for the duration of the set or even ban you from playing if you resort to such a strat.  

I'm just posting this to see what the general public of this server think about those 3 mentioned strategies and if they are acceptable form of strategy to use here.
I just love watching you say how certain things are bad when a lot of people hate you for doing something or other that's just as bad.  I personally would only do those if someone did them to me first.  Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire to succeed.  And I'd try not to harm anyone else by doing them (kinda hard with #1).

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I just can't get enough of this, lol. Everyone is threatening Ash, lol. ROTFLMAO!!!
This will be you guys after he's done: ::help!::
Funny how I seem to be the only one not making threats and the only one actually doing damage to him on Turbo.  I'm positive I do most of the attacks on his account.  He's good, but counterable.  As long as you use capture a lot he's not gonna be able to get enough leaders to do anything to you.

And on a side note as there are mods in this topic, why can't we say "w t f" but we can say "lmao?"
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Veranor on September 04, 2004, 09:46:41 AM
 
Quote from: Nohcnonk
And on a side note as there are mods in this topic, why can't we say "w t f" but we can say "lmao?"
Actually the filter doesn't block it. Or do you mean just "it would get modded"
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: RazorClaw on September 04, 2004, 01:36:16 PM
 Because it refers to laughing donkeys off, whereas w t f implies a very obscene word.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Veranor on September 04, 2004, 02:13:26 PM
Quote from: RazorClaw
Because it refers to laughing donkeys off, whereas w t f implies a very obscene word.
What the fudge? There's nothing wrong with the word fudge.  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: windhound on September 04, 2004, 03:45:44 PM
 fudge is very good..  tasty..  but wat doesnt stand for what the fudge..  our generation isnt that creative..  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Veranor on September 04, 2004, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: windhound
fudge is very good..  tasty..  but wat doesnt stand for what the fudge..  our generation isnt that creative..
So says who?


what about gfy.

Now that's very double-speaky.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: RazorClaw on September 05, 2004, 11:56:08 AM
 No, I haven't heard anyone say "fudge"in a movie since A Christmas Story (great movie!) Mmmmmmm, fuuuuuuuudge...  :eats:  
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Guthorm Swordmaster on September 06, 2004, 09:19:39 AM
 i like fudge ive actually got some somewhere.
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on September 06, 2004, 10:10:39 AM
 Well, well ?

I did not get my reputation for sitting on my hands and doing nothing. I may be very peaceful now (unless ruthlessly attacked) but there were the days when there were big wars in the game and ?unbeatable evil warlords? that survived by fear, intimidation, bounties and backstabbing. I do not condone those strategies in normal play! There are many others that I have also not written down that I do not recommend too. But those 3 you mentioned are designed to be on a ?one to one? battle. I have only used them to take down ruthless overlords, and the community applauded me for the end result. I see nothing wrong with using everything at my disposal when fighting a person that is using everything at their disposal, the difference is that I tend to have more options then they do.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Wolves on September 30, 2004, 02:12:42 PM
 When will the journal be back up?
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on September 30, 2004, 02:35:32 PM
 It is at this site:


http://home.graffiti.net/tr_julie:graffiti.net/

448 hits to date on it.


Wolf Bite
Title: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Guthorm Swordmaster on September 30, 2004, 02:58:18 PM
 Thanks i wanted to read up on it,449 hits now.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on August 16, 2005, 09:18:52 AM
* Bumps and pins topic *

Note to Holby, need to fix link.


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on August 20, 2005, 12:31:32 PM
Oops, sorry...

http://home.graffiti.net/tr_julie:graffiti.net/
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Sicarius on November 07, 2005, 07:25:13 AM
Ahm...Wolf Bite,maybe i will translate your journal to hebrew,
with concordance to the Empires War version.

With your permission of course.

What do you say?
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on November 07, 2005, 11:09:08 AM
Oh that would be great! As long as my name stays on it, I have put it freely out there in the world to see. I think many other prom games link to it.

The Journal was writen a few years ago, Some things I was slightly wrong on, and somethings no longer work with the curent version we are using. If you plan on doing so, I maybe should go over it again and update. Let me know.


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on November 08, 2005, 06:47:34 PM
dbl post, but wanted to bump the topic with new info.

I have started working on a full rewrite of the journal. So don't start to transulate for a bit untill I get this more up to date version out.

I am making it more begainer freindly and puting in stuff about the newer stuff on this program and some stuff about other versions of the game that are being played on other servers.


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Sicarius on November 09, 2005, 11:11:33 AM
Ok...then,when you will finish to update it... let me know,
after that i will translate your Journal.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Holby on January 22, 2006, 11:07:59 PM
Link was broken again:

http://rnas.pk5.net/wolf_bite.htm
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: zack harmon on April 07, 2007, 06:47:52 PM
thanks the journal helped me out
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on April 07, 2007, 11:11:13 PM
There is an updated verision. have not been able to put it up on a site yet.


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Alazar is Back on April 09, 2007, 03:51:50 AM
what have you added??
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Shadow on April 11, 2007, 07:34:14 PM
the links dont work

one says "server cannot handle your request" and the other is simply a "page not found" error
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Alazar is Back on April 11, 2007, 07:57:10 PM
go down the page to another Wolf Bite's Journal thread, it is there!
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on April 11, 2007, 08:00:37 PM
Or go to the main sign in page for the games, the link is there.


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Shadow on April 15, 2007, 07:45:04 AM
got it, thanks
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: taekwondokid42 on July 03, 2007, 04:39:38 PM
Ya know, it's really interesting to read some of the really old topics under Regular and Turbo disscussion.

It's amasing how much strategies have developed since then.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: The Lady Shael on July 03, 2007, 08:13:46 PM
Haha, you should've read the old board. "OMG, I have a million rats, I am the l33t!" ^_^
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: taekwondokid42 on July 04, 2007, 02:52:41 PM
lol.


Memeries of my HPR days...


I had 600k rats, and I bragged about it to Jeff the Magnifisant.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: idunno on July 05, 2007, 08:41:27 PM
Hmm lf only it were that easy.   :'(
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: wolf bite on September 24, 2007, 09:47:01 PM
I was just checking the forum stats, this is the 7th most read topic. hehe.

But the link is down, I wonder how long ..


Wolf Bite
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on September 27, 2007, 01:55:54 PM
If you go to the main page (www.redwallwarlords.com) it works from there.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Marell on April 17, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
Hmm, went to check on some leader math from WB's Journal and can't find any working links  ???

Haha, was reading through the topic looking for a link, and LOL at the young Peace Alliances opinion of WB's work:

It was long and pointless.
With the expansion coming out *checks* soon... and a whole new aspect being added to the game, who knows if it will have any value at all.
Title: Re: Wolf Bite's Journal
Post by: Peace Alliance on April 18, 2009, 09:07:19 AM
I was a cynical youth.

Outdated version of WB's Journal is here: http://redwallwarlords.com/wbjournal.html (http://redwallwarlords.com/wbjournal.html)