Market Change

Genevieve · May 28, 2011, 07:36:16 AM

I know that, seeing as I was the one who apparently exploited a market "bug" last round, this might not have much weight.

But imo, this change has caused more problems than it's fixed. 12 hours before the reset, I have no idea if Volkov has taken off everything he had on the market or added more.

Sharptooh · May 28, 2011, 09:03:32 AM

Can you refresh my mind on the market 0_o

How does it actually work / what's wrong with it and was anything changed

Wasn't is that if you already had say 5000 rats at £500 on the market, you could add another however many rats without any waiting period?

*is confused*

Shadow · May 28, 2011, 09:11:45 AM

Yea, there is a waiting period no matter what now.

I don't think I understand the problem.

Holby · May 28, 2011, 09:19:58 AM

Well, there was no problem to begin with. It was all a beat up.

Now, you can effectively hide what you have on the market by putting just a little bit more on there every couple of hours.

Shadow · May 28, 2011, 09:31:13 AM

when we make the planned market changes, it will no longer be a storehouse anyway.

Holby · May 28, 2011, 09:32:58 AM

that's a good point, actually.

MARKET CHANGES FTW.

Genevieve · May 28, 2011, 09:35:41 AM

Quote from: Sharptooh on May 28, 2011, 09:03:32 AM
Can you refresh my mind on the market 0_o

How does it actually work / what's wrong with it and was anything changed

Wasn't is that if you already had say 5000 rats at £500 on the market, you could add another however many rats without any waiting period?

*is confused*

Quote from: Shadow on May 28, 2011, 09:11:45 AM
Yea, there is a waiting period no matter what now.

I don't think I understand the problem.

Right, when you add stuff to your first *$500 rats, ALL your $500 rats disappear for 6 hours.

Kilkenne · May 28, 2011, 09:36:52 AM

Unless you are a hero who builds camps.

Everyone build a camp. You will then be a hero.

Shadow · May 28, 2011, 09:38:12 AM

Oh right. Yes, a bit of an overzealous fix to the original problem. I signed off on it originally, but you're right that it is a bit abusable. If the timeline for market changes is very large then I will talk to shael about fixing it in the meantime when she gets back. Otherwise we might as well just get the other changes done and not worry about it in the short term.

Abby The Rat · May 28, 2011, 05:01:56 PM

What was the previous exploit and how could it be exploited?

Shadow · May 28, 2011, 05:08:22 PM

if you had units existing on the market and sold more for the same price, there was no delay and they just mixed with the ones on the market instantly. Clans last round were using it to "aid" each other via the market.

Of course, this really didn't fix that, just made it take a bit longer.

Abby The Rat · May 28, 2011, 05:11:22 PM

If I understand correctly, the normal aid feature is delayed and clans are using the market to aid faster?

Shadow · May 28, 2011, 05:21:26 PM

no, it's that last round clans were forced to war so they they could not aid each other, but were using the market to do it anyway.

Abby The Rat · May 28, 2011, 05:40:25 PM

Ok, instead of a delay on putting stuff onto the market, create a delay on removing stuff from the market, the larger the stuff you buy, the more there is a delay, and treat each purchase as a one group travelling, linear, and have aiding without delay.

Another way, one I'm not too keen on but it'll work is to set a min and max value based on the normal value of the troops.. or an market average and only allow an increase or decrease of a certain percentage.

Kilkenne · May 28, 2011, 05:43:14 PM

I like the idea of only being able to add a certain percentage. Maybe if you could only add +50% to your troops to make them "reset" the value, it'd help the situation and re-balance it.